Religious based government

[Meirelle]

Baron von Turkeypants

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I'm not saying we should apply it to todays society. But in past societies this was a daily thing. Blind obedience to anything the head dude says is perfect for controlling large populations. And if you don't believe and obey, off with your head.

Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson.

Yeah, and look how far they progressed. Now look at societies like Athens and compare the two.

They will, in fact, calm up.

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[Levis Pennae]

Baron von Turkeypants

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I'm not saying we should apply it to todays society. But in past societies this was a daily thing. Blind obedience to anything the head dude says is perfect for controlling large populations. And if you don't believe and obey, off with your head.

Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson.

Yeah, and look how far they progressed. Now look at societies like Athens and compare the two.

They will, in fact, calm up.

They did progress pretty far, Athens was one of them.  

[CaprinaePsi]

levis pennae

Baron von Turkeypants

levis pennae

I'm not saying we should apply it to todays society. But in past societies this was a daily thing. Blind obedience to anything the head dude says is perfect for controlling large populations. And if you don't believe and obey, off with your head.

Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson.

Yeah, and look how far they progressed. Now look at societies like Athens and compare the two.

They will, in fact, calm up.

They did progress pretty far, Athens was one of them.

Actually, although Greek Mythology (back then, a religion) was the main religion back then, and was a part of daily life, it was different. There was a pantheon of gods, and you could worship any which you want. Why do you think it's called Athens? Athena wasn't at the top of the pantheon, and they sure as hell didn't call it Zeuthens, but they named it after her because of a believed that Athena gave the best gift to them, instead of Poseidon. Anyway, although religion was a big part of their lives, their government wasn't a theocracy. It was a democracy. Ruled by the people, for the people.  

[Levis Pennae]

Just because it was a democracy does not mean they didn't use religion as a political tool.  

[Baron von Turkeypants]

levis pennae

Baron von Turkeypants

levis pennae

I'm not saying we should apply it to todays society. But in past societies this was a daily thing. Blind obedience to anything the head dude says is perfect for controlling large populations. And if you don't believe and obey, off with your head.

Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson.

Yeah, and look how far they progressed. Now look at societies like Athens and compare the two.

They will, in fact, calm up.

They did progress pretty far, Athens was one of them.

Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson.

That's precisely my point.

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Just because it was a democracy does not mean they didn't use religion as a political tool.

It does mean they did not use religion as an absolute grip on the society. Never did I say they did not use religion for their advantage.

They will, in fact, calm up.

 

[Levis Pennae]

Baron von Turkeypants

levis pennae

Baron von Turkeypants

levis pennae

I'm not saying we should apply it to todays society. But in past societies this was a daily thing. Blind obedience to anything the head dude says is perfect for controlling large populations. And if you don't believe and obey, off with your head.

Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson.

Yeah, and look how far they progressed. Now look at societies like Athens and compare the two.

They will, in fact, calm up.

They did progress pretty far, Athens was one of them.

Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson.

That's precisely my point.

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Just because it was a democracy does not mean they didn't use religion as a political tool.

It does mean they did not use religion as an absolute grip on the society. Never did I say they did not use religion for their advantage.

They will, in fact, calm up.

First one, I was confused above your point, sorry. The second one was for another person. But thank you for getting my points 4laugh  

[CaprinaePsi]

Levis Pennae

Just because it was a democracy does not mean they didn't use religion as a political tool.

I do not know whether or not they used religion as a political tool, but there is a difference between ancient Athens, and a theocracy. A theocracy is a government led by divine judgment, and is led by either a group of ruling priests, or a religious figure. Athens was not a theocracy, it was a direct democracy, and there is a difference.  

[Theophrastus]

I will give you major points for reading Dune.

I think that series really helped me move towards Atheism.  

[Sanguvixen]

Levis Pennae

That's completely against what I think. Religion based governments had some of the longest reigns in history. The Greeks, the Romans, and the Babalonians(?) just to name a few off the top of my head. These governments were peaceful and long lasting because they were based on religion. But this was also in a day when science was the religion, so there was no questioning it. These governments only fail when the religion was undermined, mostly by outside invaders. This type of government would not be able to be done today because we now know more than religion can explain.

There are two types of Theocratic governments to look at. Both were long lasting. One kind was peaceful and the other wasn't.

Some of them would take over territories, and allow the people living in those territories to continue to worship whatever gods they pleased. The Persians were well noted for that. They did well, because they didn't require people to convert and change their beliefs.

The other kind was different. It forced people, violently even, to change their religion, and convert. Those kind were long lasting, and sometimes peaceful. The difference is though that the people lived in fear. They didn't dare cause problems because they were afraid of being labeled heratics and being burned/tortured/ect.

Many of the current prominent religions existed in the past and they were part of the latter, who forced people to change in not so nice ways. Their reign was long, violent, and bloody. That is why I said, when you look to the past...it's just not a good idea.

With that I would like to whip out a very relevent quote said by one Ruth Hurmence Green. "There was a time when religion ruled the world. It was called the Dark Ages"