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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:09 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:42 pm
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:40 pm
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:43 pm
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:44 pm
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ProjectOmicron88 Kurai Keiro Thanks for your atheists in foxholes explanation. biggrin But who is it in the picture? That'd be Pat Tillman, the former Arizona Cardinals player who gave up a multi-million dollar football contract to fight in Afghanistan. He was KIA. More pertinent to the topic, he was also an atheist.
Pat was actually murdered by the way. It wasn't an "accident."
http://www.comcast.net/news/national/index.jsp?cat=DOMESTIC&fn=/2007/07/27/724936.html
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/26/ap3958728.html
It's so sad when we have our own soldiers being murdered by our own for such foolish of reasons.
And if anyone ever says "There's are no atheists in foxholes!" happily point out that you know one.
I happen to be leaving for Basic in November, and have a very good chance of being sent to a foxhole. domokun
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:52 pm
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Shaka-FireFly ProjectOmicron88 Kurai Keiro Thanks for your atheists in foxholes explanation. biggrin But who is it in the picture? That'd be Pat Tillman, the former Arizona Cardinals player who gave up a multi-million dollar football contract to fight in Afghanistan. He was KIA. More pertinent to the topic, he was also an atheist. Pat was actually murdered by the way. It wasn't an "accident." http://www.comcast.net/news/national/index.jsp?cat=DOMESTIC&fn=/2007/07/27/724936.htmlhttp://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/26/ap3958728.htmlIt's so sad when we have our own soldiers being murdered by our own for such foolish of reasons. And if anyone ever says "There's are no atheists in foxholes!" happily point out that you know one. I happen to be leaving for Basic in November, and have a very good chance of being sent to a foxhole. domokun
Last I heard, the whole thing was still under investigation.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:20 pm
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Thanks for your replies, everyone. smile
I have no real clue to why he converted... His parents are conservative Christians and we do live in the Bible Belt. >.< Why he chose an atheist partner like me, I do not know.
About the atheists in foxholes thing: o.o
I can't stand it when people say atheists aren't patriotic/etc. And I feel really sorry for Tillman's mom. sad
Shaka-FireFly ProjectOmicron88 Kurai Keiro Thanks for your atheists in foxholes explanation. biggrin But who is it in the picture? That'd be Pat Tillman, the former Arizona Cardinals player who gave up a multi-million dollar football contract to fight in Afghanistan. He was KIA. More pertinent to the topic, he was also an atheist. Pat was actually murdered by the way. It wasn't an "accident." http://www.comcast.net/news/national/index.jsp?cat=DOMESTIC&fn=/2007/07/27/724936.htmlhttp://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/26/ap3958728.htmlIt's so sad when we have our own soldiers being murdered by our own for such foolish of reasons. And if anyone ever says "There's are no atheists in foxholes!" happily point out that you know one. I happen to be leaving for Basic in November, and have a very good chance of being sent to a foxhole. domokun
Be careful! sad
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:36 am
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ProjectOmicron88 Shaka-FireFly ProjectOmicron88 Kurai Keiro Thanks for your atheists in foxholes explanation. biggrin But who is it in the picture? That'd be Pat Tillman, the former Arizona Cardinals player who gave up a multi-million dollar football contract to fight in Afghanistan. He was KIA. More pertinent to the topic, he was also an atheist. Pat was actually murdered by the way. It wasn't an "accident." http://www.comcast.net/news/national/index.jsp?cat=DOMESTIC&fn=/2007/07/27/724936.htmlhttp://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/26/ap3958728.htmlIt's so sad when we have our own soldiers being murdered by our own for such foolish of reasons. And if anyone ever says "There's are no atheists in foxholes!" happily point out that you know one. I happen to be leaving for Basic in November, and have a very good chance of being sent to a foxhole. domokun Last I heard, the whole thing was still under investigation.
It was. Those two links are the final result of what they found.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:31 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:27 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:18 pm
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I've noticed that a lot of the really crazy hardcore Christians are the ones who've fell on hard times and have a penchant for addiction. Seriously, you hear all the time about how they were all atheist and shootin' up heroin and stuff and then they found God and got better. Well, it's really just another addiction. It's an unhealthy disease. And other times I've noticed people would do anything to fit in. So maybe your friend was just desperate enough to fit into the counterculture crowd and said he was atheist, and now he wants to be part of this new crowd. I don't know. I just offered my observations.
And about the atheists in foxholes. Oh, I'm sure there are plenty of atheists in foxholes. It's just that ritual sometimes takes over without you even thinking about it. For example, my college roommate, who is hardcore atheist, came back from the bathroom the night of the elections in November 2004, and she said to me, "Jesus ******** Christ, Carol. I totally just genuflected and made the sign of the cross." In short, old habits die hard. These gestures don't mean anything-- they were just drilled into our heads at such an early age that it's become a weird ritual that has no religious meaning. So if someone had a gun pointed to my head, would I be praying? Oh, please. Repeating "Please, God" over and over again might sound like a prayer, but it's not. And that's my take on atheists in foxholes.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:50 pm
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Meirelle I've noticed that a lot of the really crazy hardcore Christians are the ones who've fell on hard times and have a penchant for addiction. Seriously, you hear all the time about how they were all atheist and shootin' up heroin and stuff and then they found God and got better. Well, it's really just another addiction. It's an unhealthy disease. And other times I've noticed people would do anything to fit in. So maybe your friend was just desperate enough to fit into the counterculture crowd and said he was atheist, and now he wants to be part of this new crowd. I don't know. I just offered my observations. And about the atheists in foxholes. Oh, I'm sure there are plenty of atheists in foxholes. It's just that ritual sometimes takes over without you even thinking about it. For example, my college roommate, who is hardcore atheist, came back from the bathroom the night of the elections in November 2004, and she said to me, "Jesus ******** Christ, Carol. I totally just genuflected and made the sign of the cross." In short, old habits die hard. These gestures don't mean anything-- they were just drilled into our heads at such an early age that it's become a weird ritual that has no religious meaning. So if someone had a gun pointed to my head, would I be praying? Oh, please. Repeating "Please, God" over and over again might sound like a prayer, but it's not. And that's my take on atheists in foxholes.
I will ask him about it and get back to you on that. biggrin
Yeah, I say "Oh god" a lot as well, and it really pisses of my Christian classmates. xd There is this really Christian guy that thinks he's winning a nonexistent "Christian vs. Atheist" war every time anyone mentions God.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:59 pm
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Kurai Keiro Meirelle I've noticed that a lot of the really crazy hardcore Christians are the ones who've fell on hard times and have a penchant for addiction. Seriously, you hear all the time about how they were all atheist and shootin' up heroin and stuff and then they found God and got better. Well, it's really just another addiction. It's an unhealthy disease. And other times I've noticed people would do anything to fit in. So maybe your friend was just desperate enough to fit into the counterculture crowd and said he was atheist, and now he wants to be part of this new crowd. I don't know. I just offered my observations. And about the atheists in foxholes. Oh, I'm sure there are plenty of atheists in foxholes. It's just that ritual sometimes takes over without you even thinking about it. For example, my college roommate, who is hardcore atheist, came back from the bathroom the night of the elections in November 2004, and she said to me, "Jesus ******** Christ, Carol. I totally just genuflected and made the sign of the cross." In short, old habits die hard. These gestures don't mean anything-- they were just drilled into our heads at such an early age that it's become a weird ritual that has no religious meaning. So if someone had a gun pointed to my head, would I be praying? Oh, please. Repeating "Please, God" over and over again might sound like a prayer, but it's not. And that's my take on atheists in foxholes. I will ask him about it and get back to you on that. biggrin Yeah, I say "Oh god" a lot as well, and it really pisses of my Christian classmates. xd There is this really Christian guy that thinks he's winning a nonexistent "Christian vs. Atheist" war every time anyone mentions God.
I always say "Oh gosh" because what else am I going to say that portrays the same meaning? I could be like "Oh my!" But that is still hinting at the third word... I dunno.
The only time I say god is when I'm being sarcastic. Like "Oh gawwddd." xD
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