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Jaydoggy

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:00 pm


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People have very extreme opinions of opera, either they love it and find it one of the greatest art forms to ever exist, or they hate it to death and mock it in every way possible.

But if you are curious about opera, there are things to consider: It is in fact the most elaborate of any live production: it involves acting, remembering all those lines, along WITH remembering all that music, which in fact very difficult. It takes years of training and practice to be able to sing that kind of music, act, and wear occasionally elaborate costumes under all those lights, straight from memory. Not to mention there are still all the other aspects of theater: stage direction, sets, costumes, lighting, the whole thing.

I'm not going to lie, there are a LOT of BAAAAAAAAAAD singers, these are the ones usually mocked. The vibrato can either make or break someone's sound. If it's too wide, the singer can lose the note they're supposed to center on, and some have been known to use that to their advantage because they can't find the right note. So when looking for performances and recordings, I'd suggest looking for their reviews before investing your money into sometimes very expensive works.

For starting to listen, you'll definitely want one of the more famous works and easy-to-follow works. Some are very complicated and many common and beginning people miss several amazing points. So here are some famous (sometimes considered cliche) works that are great to begin with, and from there I would suggest looking more into these composers and/or finding other operas like it.

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Giuseppe Verdi - "Rigoletto" (Drama) probably most-known for its tenor aria "La donna è mobile," it appears in so many commercials and TV and movies, most people don't know what he's saying, and are very surprised to find out too (here's a clip of Domingo with subtitles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HcrVzwlocA ) It's about a court jester who's found his long lost daughter, and the lecherous duke he's in service to has taken a liking to her beauty.

Giuseppe Verdi - "Aida" (Drama) One of the most commonly-performed operas to this date, this is a romance that takes place in ancient times of an Egyptian war hero (in the war with Ethiopia) falling in love with one of the princess's slaves, Aida. Leontyne Price singing the main soprano aria, "O patria mia" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6kR5ZvLN80

W. A. Mozart - "Die Zauberflote" (The Magic Flute) (Comedy) A Singsphiel ("Sing-play," a comic show with both spoken and musical parts). This fun show has a role for nearly every voice type, from a coloratura soprano to a dramatic bass. There are virtuoso parts, and amature parts, and child parts too. There are several styles in this show as well, almost like a grab-bag for styles from a baroque choral, popular folk-style, and sophisticated grand opera. The story is about a prince and his quest for love, with the help of his new friend Papageno the bird caller.
"Der Hölle Rache" (The Queen of the Night's most famous aria) performed by Diana Damrau, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvuKxL4LOqc and Malti Salminen singing "In diesen heil'gen Hallen" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRaAtfgMd8

W. A. Mozart - "Don Giovanni" (Comic Drama) Musicologists still try to classify this between drama vs. comedy but Mozart and the librettist da Ponte called it a Drama Giacosso (comic drama). It is both hilarious and horrifying, an interpretation of the very unfunny legend of Don Juan retold in a more light-hearted way. There are both hilarious moments, such as Leporello's famous "catalog aria" describing all the women Don Giovanni has dominated http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0lN6SJkpBQ sung by Furlanetto. And also very dramatic and heart-filled, with one of Mozart's most adored arias, "Non mi dir"(sung by Rene Flemming, same performance as the other clip) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrTgxcI305k

Richard Wagner - "Lohengrin" (Drama) Wagner is musically controversial, from people who love his music, to those who HATE his music. Personally I think his music is gorgeous, but idiotic in that it is so physically demanding it is hard to find an enjoyable performance because of how much is cut, or because it's so easy to mess up. Of all his operas, Lohengrin is probably the easiest to follow with several reacurring themes. It is very long but not as long as his other shows. I'd suggest not listening to this until listening to a few other operas first because of its length. This is a fairy-tail-like story of a woman rescued by a magic knight who reappears in a boat carried by a swan. Most people know its bridal chorus from act III as "Here Comes The Bride" though the true words are much different, but three times more lovely (Wagner wrote his own librettos which I do find beautifully done). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7Jhx93s9w for bridal chorus, the overture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7prUFflX0_E and the finale (if you want the story spoiled, it is a beautiful excerpt) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U8_3OxCJ8w
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:32 pm


Please remember that extremes are just that - extreme. Most things fall on a natural bell curve - a majority are somewhat in the middle, with a few on either end of loving it or hating it. Don't assume that people are only on one side or the other. ;3

I don't really care for opera much, but I do enjoy it sometimes, usually the lighter fare, like Mozart or Gilbert & Sullivan (yeah yeah, I know, they write operetta, whatev). But I certainly don't hate it to death. ;3

Sorry to butt in on your thread, but I felt compelled to comment.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:33 pm


Man is condemned to be free. ~Jean-Paul Sartre

Heh, that is true...I have to say, I'd consider myself more toward the end of liking opera, but there are still some I don't like, and there are definitely parts of opera I could do without.

A fashion is nothing but an induced epidemic. ~George Bernard Shaw
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:22 am


Does it really have to be opera? I mean, it makes sense alone for people who don't like opera is because of the singing (not really sure why) so why not have other pieces that just include singing and insturments? Perhaps even begin with solo singers if we're that crazy?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:55 pm


Man is condemned to be free. ~Jean-Paul Sartre

Well, there are tons of other genres than involve accompanied singing - oratorio, artsong (and related stuff like chanson and lieder), church music, etc.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:24 am


Septomor
Does it really have to be opera? I mean, it makes sense alone for people who don't like opera is because of the singing (not really sure why) so why not have other pieces that just include singing and insturments? Perhaps even begin with solo singers if we're that crazy?

There are indeed plenty of wonderful stand-alone pieces, song cycles and other pieces featuring the human voice, but this thread I wanted to devote just to opera.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:03 pm


I like most operas, I must say that I am stereotypical I like love carmen. I also tried to watch wozzect by Berg but that was crazy and I fast forwarded through most of it. For people who do not know a lot about opera I also suggest Cosi Fan Tutte by Mozart, it is a really cute opera and I could follow it very easily.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:49 pm


I dearly love Opera. I love sing in them, listening to them, and learning individual arias!

moon_child113


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:21 pm


I'm rather fond of opera. Some.... should never have been written, and some I wish I could put my name on xD

Amazingness on a stick:
Die Fledermaus
Philip Glass's Portrait Trilogy
Nixon in China
Richard Strauss's Operas :3

Death Warmed Over:
Doctor Atomic (saw it in person and wanted to strangle everyone involved. Got a glimpse of Adams himself though biggrin )
(whatever that Vivaldi opera on NPR was last year...)
PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 6:34 pm


Hmm....Definitely Don Giovanni, ah, also Die Zauberflöte; Carmen; Il barbiere di Siviglia, ossia L'inutile precauzione; L'elisir d'amore; Der Rauchfangkehrer; and finally my favorite opera of all time La Boheme. biggrin

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:58 am


Pax_Veniaque
I like most operas, I must say that I am stereotypical I like love carmen.


I agree it is really stereotypical to love Carmen, but why not? Its absolutely beautiful, I'm going to be in it late this year smile
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:35 am


There are some pieces from Don Giovanni that I thought were pretty awesome, but I don't know if those ones (since they were mostly male voices in the songs I heard) would be appropriate or not for a beginning singer. I remember there was this girl at one of my vocal competitions a little over a year ago......she was singing the Queen of the Night Aria from Mozart's Die Zauberflote (Magic Flute), but she was sooooo not good for it. Not to be offensive or anything, of course. It's just that she was even younger than I was (I was 18 years old) and that's one of the hardest pieces someone could pick to sing. Not even a senior college student would have an easy time with that one, especially with its reputation as a coloratura piece. She was just barely squeaking out the high notes. Plus she overdid it a bit with her wardrobe, too......(it was a formal-casual event, she wore a gown O_o)
Point in case: Arias like that should never be sung so early on in life. ><

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:11 am


Cellestia
There are some pieces from Don Giovanni that I thought were pretty awesome, but I don't know if those ones (since they were mostly male voices in the songs I heard) would be appropriate or not for a beginning singer. I remember there was this girl at one of my vocal competitions a little over a year ago......she was singing the Queen of the Night Aria from Mozart's Die Zauberflote (Magic Flute), but she was sooooo not good for it. Not to be offensive or anything, of course. It's just that she was even younger than I was (I was 18 years old) and that's one of the hardest pieces someone could pick to sing. Not even a senior college student would have an easy time with that one, especially with its reputation as a coloratura piece. She was just barely squeaking out the high notes. Plus she overdid it a bit with her wardrobe, too......(it was a formal-casual event, she wore a gown O_o)
Point in case: Arias like that should never be sung so early on in life. ><


Hi! I am 15 and I'm entering a regional competition with the Queen of the Night aria (Der Hölle Rache)... I can sing up to F7, so technically it's not a matter of age, it's a matter of ability in addition to skill level. Even my first vocal teacher i knew had a tough time hitting that high F (F6). However, because of the INSANE runs, I wouldn't try to sing something like "O Zittre Nicht".
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