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Should all Stradivari Instruments be in Museums?
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sesshomarus_hot

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:46 pm


I think it's perfectly fine to put a historic, unplayable instrument on display in a museum! When you think about it, you always see utensils and waepons and even animal carcasses on display, and an unplayable remain of an instrument is really not the different. If you're against putting instruments on display in museums, you should be against all museums in general. It's nice to share the beauty of an antique with other people, and I know I always enjoy going to museums and seeing just how beautiful intruments were and still are in comparison. It's all for intellectual persuit and for knowledge fulfillment. In my opinion, if you don't like seeing instruments being put on display, then don't look.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:41 am


I second the top post~ Very much right~ I'd have to say xD

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:57 am


Of course not, because people won't be able to hear the beautiful sound of Stradivari instruments. After all, it's the finest violins in the world. Plus Stradivari put his effort into making those.

I would despise museums who would enclose such beautiful instruments in such a small glass-covered box. D<
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:25 pm


The thought of seeing an instrument in a spot where it could never be played again sounds really sad to me =/

By not playing them, we are neglecting what they were intentionally made to do.

Personally, if I were Stradivarius I would want my instruments to be played until the very end.
That is how the creator of that instrument lives eternally.
Their creations are more like their own Fountains Of Eternal Life, if you think about it.

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jahooliah

PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:56 pm


I second that. gonk
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:15 am


MejraThea
I think its horrible to put an instrument in a museum! What's the point of it if it's just sitting there! An instrument should be played. If I was a violin and was sitting in a museum and not be able to be played by someone I would cry!

The most amazing instruments are of course the Stradivari kinds. (Mostly violins, a couple cellos, violas, and one guitar, I think....)
I think there are only 20 in the world...and most of them are in a freaking museum >.< Even if they're expensive (each worth at least 2 million American Dollars) , they should be played!

What do you think?


IMO:
I would like to see the use of Stradavariuses, Amatis, Storionis, and Guarneri's phased out over the next 50-100 years. Like Beethoven's Fifth, these are warhorses that are overplayed, and they can't last forever. These instruments are over 300 years old and though I admire the sentiment and adulation displayed by today's players for these great predecessor's, these violin makers always encouraged fresh eyes, innovation, and support of newer generations.

Frankly Amati's violin's belong to the Baroque era, when a softer sound more intimate environment was the norm (ever heard one--they're so beautiful, but could easily get lost beneath a Guarneri's dark, at times booming sound). And for the great musician's who first played and commissioned these instruments, these were brand new top of the line stuff. (I also blame Viotti for today's grossly inflated violin prices all around because....well read his biography--in a book, there's no where near the depth online--to find out why most professional soloist have to mortgage their home just to get a decent instrument) .

My point is, as a violin ages its sounds closes up and the changes that they undergo (because those aren't the original bridge, soundpost, and these incredibly resilient instruments have undergone "minor surgery" to keep up appearances) result in a different instrument than what the luthier first crafted. Even today, there is great dispute over the recipe for that distinct varnish Stradivarius used--it's a forgotten art. But that's in the luthier world.

As a musician, I rather not see these once glorious instruments be put essentially on musical life support for the sake of old glory and instead see modern makers supported by us. I mean, I would be pissed if someone insisted on listening to Heifetz, Elman, or (insert name of early 20th century violinist), and treated me and my contemporaries as second rate violinists.Also, once those instruments are put in a museum (or the private home of someone who knows how to care for them), the rate of inflation might go down and orchestras can afford to outfit their musician's with instruments worthy of their skill and renown.

IMO, o course.

Gjornia X


Mizuki Himenji

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:00 pm


I don't agree because it willl be so cruel to the instrument and what would the people who made the instrument say?!?! They made it so it can be played!!!!!! stressed stressed stressed stressed stressed stressed stressed stressed stressed ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:44 pm


I reread the first post, and I think I misunderstood the question. If the question is should an instrument be locked up due to its monetary value, my response is no. If one can afford to purchase or lease the instrument and it is in playable condition I see no fault with that. However, if the instrument is very old (over 200 years) it might be time to retire it.

The case of Stradavari, Amati, and Guarneri del Gesu as luthiers is that their instruments have gone on to increase almost exponentially in value and they are also reaching the 500 year mark.

Would I be upset if any of these instruments were permanently retired tomorrow? No. Those luthiers--Stradivari, Amati, Guarneri, and the countless others who you don't hear oft of---merely mark the beginning of a wonderful musical era. They've more than paid their dues to society and art (much like Bach!!), and I can't think of any painter or author from that time or earlier(aside from Homer or Plato, or religious writers) whose works are still highly regarded and remain contemporary like these instrument collections.

This is of course my opinion (that is the meaning of IMO in my previous post). So, I can't demand anything from those who have given so much and have miraculously created an instrument whose curves and mellifluous sound continue to entrance and seduce us violinists hundreds of years later and quite possibly hundreds more.

Gjornia X


goffica_57

PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:47 am


I agree with that if it is no longer in a playable condition then you can lock it in a museum because it would be a waste if it wasn't it would just sit in someones cupboard for years.

But if it is playable museums and collectors should be ashamed they are supposed to be played so that everyone can enjoy the music this is why there is such a lack in harpsichords most people paint them and put them on display its awful harpsichords are no longer in production and they ones that do remain are just sat there when musicians such as myself can only dream of the opportunity to play them and revive the baroque era!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:35 pm


1 thing u should NEVER do to an instrument: NEVER PUT IT ON DISPLAY!!! EVERY INSTRUMENT NEEDS TO BE PLAYED

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