The Truth...

[Nardone]

These are not my own words.. but iv pulled them off a website named http://www.evilbible.com/
its hard to deny that the bible isn't as good as people say it is when you pull lines from the old and new testament..
“Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:


There are many Christians and Jews who demand that the Ten Commandments should be displayed in public institutions. In my opinion it is only fair that if the commandments are to be displayed, so should the penalties for breaking those commandments. Matter of fact they should be posted in its entirety so that society can see just what kind of crap these religions are feeding us. I also encourage those of you Judeo/Christians who visit here to print out this very list and post it where your children can see it. It’s time you explain to them what a murderous, unjust god you brainwash them into worshiping.

1st. Commandment, Exodus 20:3 “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”. Old Testament punishment - Deuteronomy 17:1-5 “And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heavens, which I have not commanded. Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing and shalt stone them with stones, till they die”. Deuteronomy 13:6-10, “If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is of thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. Thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God." Exodus 22:20 “He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed”. New Testament punishment - Mark 16:16 “He that believeth not, shall be damned”.

2nd. Commandment, Exodus 20:4 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water below.” Old Testament punishment- Deuteronomy 27: 1 5 “Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image.” That’s right kids don’t EVER draw, sculpt or paint or else god will curse you. Wanna be an artist, a photographer, take a picture of yourself or family? TOO BAD, God says no! You better drop out of art class before he smites you with boils.

3rd. Commandment, Exodus 20:7 “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain”. Old Testament punishment - Leviticus 24:16 “And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death”, New Testament punishment - Matthew 12:32 “Whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come”. Mark 3:29 - “He that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgivness, but is in danger of eternal damnation”.

4th. Commandment, Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy”. Old Testament punishment - Exodus 31:15 “Whosoever shall work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death”. Numbers 15:32. “And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the Sabbath day…And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.”

5th. Commandment, Exodus 20:12 “Honour thy father and thy mother”. Old Testament punishment - Exodus 21:15-17 “And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death”. More punishment - Exodus 21:17 “And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death”.

6th. Commandment, Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill”. Strangely enough this is a commandment despite all the punishments that require death in the New Testament and the Old Testament. How can thou not kill when thou is commanded to kill at the same time? This hypocrisy should be pointed out if the ten commandments are posted in schools, court rooms and buildings of legislation. The confusion of this commandment would surely bring capitol punishment into question.

7th. Commandment, Exodus 20:14 “Thou shalt not commit adultery”. Old Testament punishment - Leviticus 20:10 “And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death”.

I am working on compiling the list of punishments for commandments 8, 9, and 10. They should be up by then. In the mean while I have several other random commands by god that are quite interesting which I have listed here. The following command is very relevant for it requires a mandatory belief in the biblical god. Following the Ten Commandments, which are also listed in Deuteronomy 5:7-21, there are a number of curses which shall come upon thee, and overtake thee. These curses are given in Deuteronomy 28:17-68. Space does not permit all of them to be quoted, but a few are that the Lord will smite thee with consumption, fever, hemorrhoids, scab, madness, blindness, boils, and many more even worse.

For those of you Christians who disregard the Old Testament (even though Christ said it was forever binding), I have gathered together a great law from the New Testament. Romans 1 :29-32 “Those filled with unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, hate for god, despite, proud, boasters, inventions of evil things, disobedience to parents, without understanding, covenant breakers, unnatural affection, implacable or unmerciful nature: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death”.

Now I have had the displeasure of meeting many a Christian and I have one to meet as of yet, whom according to this list, are NOT worthy of death. How many of us feel envy, wish to fornicate, boast or gossip? How many Christians are guilty of debating? Why every day some Christian is debating the word of god or his dogmas with me. Every day I am the victim of deceit and despite at the hands of some Christian verbally harassing me for my beliefs. No wonder why god said that there shall only be 144,000 in the heaven out of all his followers.

In Conclusion:

Christians and Jews should post the commandments up in their parochial schools and in their churches/temples. But, if they insist on doing so they should print out this very page and hang it up for all to see. Don’t be a half-a** religionist; educate your children on what God truly commands. Stop thriving on telling half truths about your Bible/Pentateuch and publish the WHOLE story. Most importantly, do not think you have the right to post them in public institutions. It is MY job to educate MY child. Children need to learn the true meaning of love, compassion, morality, forgiveness and mercy. Not the filthy dogmas your Jehovah commands. Quite frankly, in comparison to hell-fire and damnation I’ll stick with Big Bird.

again.. these arent my own words.. i just completely agree with them..  

[Kidrahs]

Yay, im usefull again!  

[Eccentric Detective]

Whoa, whoa, whoa – wait a minute!
You have to realize these were written many years ago, in a different language,
So there’s a HUGE margin for error.
Have you ever taken a bible study class? I advise you do, because it helps to know what you are talking about.
Another thing that might put this all into perspective is the knowledge of the kinds of laws written back then. I assume you know of Hammurabi’s Code? Archaic people weren’t very creative. The only punishment they could think of was capital. They didn’t even imagine that community service could be just as effective as the death penalty to not only stop people from breaking rules, but also from ever breaking them again, which is, I suppose, the motivation for giving people death for minor offenses.
Consider too, that in Acts Paul basically says that the Hebrew Scripture laws (Leviticus and Deuteronomy, specifically) are now null and void. I know the Jews don’t accept the New Testament, so I suppose these rules still apply for them.
But realize you’re misinterpreting a lot of it. The death punishment rules are pretty clear, but there is danger of misunderstanding! For example, the sixth commandment actually means: Do not murder. There is a difference between killing and murdering, although it is a slight one, I’ll admit.

I am an atheist, but I like to know about what I’m rejecting. And I don’t want to look like a fool in a serious religious debate.

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet – that site is notorious for taking verses out of context.  

[alteregoivy]

tearingXheavenXdown

Whoa, whoa, whoa – wait a minute!
You have to realize these were written many years ago, in a different language,
So there’s a HUGE margin for error.
Have you ever taken a bible study class? I advise you do, because it helps to know what you are talking about.
Another thing that might put this all into perspective is the knowledge of the kinds of laws written back then. I assume you know of Hammurabi’s Code? Archaic people weren’t very creative. The only punishment they could think of was capital. They didn’t even imagine that community service could be just as effective as the death penalty to not only stop people from breaking rules, but also from ever breaking them again, which is, I suppose, the motivation for giving people death for minor offenses.
Consider too, that in Acts Paul basically says that the Hebrew Scripture laws (Leviticus and Deuteronomy, specifically) are now null and void. I know the Jews don’t accept the New Testament, so I suppose these rules still apply for them.
But realize you’re misinterpreting a lot of it. The death punishment rules are pretty clear, but there is danger of misunderstanding! For example, the sixth commandment actually means: Do not murder. There is a difference between killing and murdering, although it is a slight one, I’ll admit.

I am an atheist, but I like to know about what I’m rejecting. And I don’t want to look like a fool in a serious religious debate.

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet – that site is notorious for taking verses out of context.

Assuming we put it into the context of the time, that doesn't excuse people who force their Biblical morals on others. There must be some other measure by which we come up with our morals, outside of the Bible, because not only to we pick and choose which commandments to follow (as a culture, and even devout Christians are guilty of this), but we reject others entirely.

Don't claim to use the Bible as a moral guide and in the same breath excuse its atrocities as "acceptable for the time." If you have to say that, there a reason we can't use it completely today.

I agree about reading whole passages in their context... But I came to the same conclusion, even after that.  

[Nardone]

Kidrahs

Yay, im usefull again!

haha yea man i love that site you posted XD  

[Nardone]

tearingXheavenXdown

Whoa, whoa, whoa – wait a minute!
You have to realize these were written many years ago, in a different language,
So there’s a HUGE margin for error.
Have you ever taken a bible study class? I advise you do, because it helps to know what you are talking about.
Another thing that might put this all into perspective is the knowledge of the kinds of laws written back then. I assume you know of Hammurabi’s Code? Archaic people weren’t very creative. The only punishment they could think of was capital. They didn’t even imagine that community service could be just as effective as the death penalty to not only stop people from breaking rules, but also from ever breaking them again, which is, I suppose, the motivation for giving people death for minor offenses.
Consider too, that in Acts Paul basically says that the Hebrew Scripture laws (Leviticus and Deuteronomy, specifically) are now null and void. I know the Jews don’t accept the New Testament, so I suppose these rules still apply for them.
But realize you’re misinterpreting a lot of it. The death punishment rules are pretty clear, but there is danger of misunderstanding! For example, the sixth commandment actually means: Do not murder. There is a difference between killing and murdering, although it is a slight one, I’ll admit.

I am an atheist, but I like to know about what I’m rejecting. And I don’t want to look like a fool in a serious religious debate.

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet – that site is notorious for taking verses out of context.

it doesnt matter though.. they should have changed the contexts then.. its taken right out of the bible.. and although the bible is mainly supposed to be interrpeted.. its really hard to interpet those any differently then just killing people for disrespecting the god they believe in..  

[Eccentric Detective]

This bring up another argument for atheism - why put the guide to heaven in a form that can be so easily misunderstood?

I don't use the Bible as a moral guide, but understand that the people who claim to do that know themselves that they are not perfect. You can't expect anyone to exactly follow any set of rules, especially not the specific hell-damning laws of the text. Lay off on your accusations of "hypocrite," please, it's insulting and rather rude, however true it may be.

I agree that no one should force their beliefs on others! An archaic set of writings is nothing to base your everyday behavior on, it just doesn't work.
And yes, there is so much wrong with the Bible, like its apparent sexism and tall-tale-telling ways. If you read the Bible from front to back, you'll definitely notice that its attitude changes. I attribute this to the evolution of humankind's morals. We're still moving forward. It used to be okay to sack so-called pagan cities for the sake of God. Another atrocity religion condones. Or condoned. Ahem*cough*Crusades*cough*

...To finish up, don't ASSUME the Bible is a pack of lies. It might be, but you'll have to decide that for yourself after studying it seriously or you'll be just as ignorant as the mindless hordes attending church every Sunday simply because it's what they've done for their whole lives.  

[[-Erik-]]

The bible is either too complex for us to understand or just not well planned.

"STONE THE SINNERS TO DEATH. By the way, killing is a sin, y'know"
-So... what am I supposed to do?"
"I DUNNO LOL : D"

I don't know you guys, but the bible kept those verses for a reason. I suppose that us humans are not allowed to modify the bible since we don't know God's behavior nor what he wants. If there was one, of course. Those who DO know simply want things their way.

But, eh, I'm just sharing my assumptions with you.

 

[Eccentric Detective]

All that "inspired by God, written by man" stuff is bullshit. If God really wanted us in heaven, he would've made his son more convincing, the Bible inspiring and truthful, and gotten rid of McDonald's. (Hehe. I added the last bit for fun.)  

[Nardone]

tearingXheavenXdown

All that "inspired by God, written by man" stuff is bullshit. If God really wanted us in heaven, he would've made his son more convincing, the Bible inspiring and truthful, and gotten rid of McDonald's. (Hehe. I added the last bit for fun.)

but the problem is that a lot of people DO take it too literal.. i do a lot of work at the church.. they do a lot of nice things for the community in my town so i help them help us.. and yesterday i attended a barbaque with them and they tricked us into going to a VERY VERY VERY VERY hardcore mass with a monk and assholish preachers.. my friends and i ducked out but we heared what happened from others.. those are the people who are taking it too literal.. they were saying that those who had sexual activity before marriage would be sent to hell and that if you had an abortion then god would rape you or some s**t like that.. they should be put in hospitals i swear -_- am i a lone when i say the world would be better without OD on religion?  

[Eccentric Detective]

*raises hand*
You aren't alone. Religion is a very efficient tool people manipulate others with.
I'm glad I escaped from the vicious cycle of blind faith.  

[[-Erik-]]

I think it's more like "The world would do better without those extremist religious assholes"

 

[Nardone]

[-Erik-]

I think it's more like "The world would do better without those extremist religious assholes"

that too  

[Daffodil the Destroyer]

tearingXheavenXdown

This bring up another argument for atheism - why put the guide to heaven in a form that can be so easily misunderstood?

I don't use the Bible as a moral guide, but understand that the people who claim to do that know themselves that they are not perfect. You can't expect anyone to exactly follow any set of rules, especially not the specific hell-damning laws of the text. Lay off on your accusations of "hypocrite," please, it's insulting and rather rude, however true it may be.

I agree that no one should force their beliefs on others! An archaic set of writings is nothing to base your everyday behavior on, it just doesn't work.
And yes, there is so much wrong with the Bible, like its apparent sexism and tall-tale-telling ways. If you read the Bible from front to back, you'll definitely notice that its attitude changes. I attribute this to the evolution of humankind's morals. We're still moving forward. It used to be okay to sack so-called pagan cities for the sake of God. Another atrocity religion condones. Or condoned. Ahem*cough*Crusades*cough*

...To finish up, don't ASSUME the Bible is a pack of lies. It might be, but you'll have to decide that for yourself after studying it seriously or you'll be just as ignorant as the mindless hordes attending church every Sunday simply because it's what they've done for their whole lives.

I like you! xp

 

[G4NTZ]

Just believing in the bible is extreme. Picking and choosing is a major headache and its what most do. Kidrahs has been very useful in posting that website, so here, have my links.

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/summary.htm (best site)

http://www.mwillett.org/atheism/atheism1.htm

http://nobeliefs.com/worst-quotes.htm

http://atheistdocumentaries.blogspot.com/ (free documentaries. I suggest you see Jesus camp if you haven't.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzG7l5P9wO8 (a very funny interview between fox news and Brian Flemming)