T5:DR tier list...Discuss

[Miyavi San]

Icege

IB: Fear? Never and nobody. Respect? Highly.

Miyavi: d+3+4 hits mid first. It's Jin's low parry punisher. Whiffing is when you attack and it hits nothing but air. d/f+2 needs to be CH to launch, and chances of hitting that are slim. CDS+1 (electric version) is great for wake up since it's only jab punishable, which makes it a viable option as opposed to iWS+2. The axe kick launcher isn't a real launcher and kinda sucks. Let me take that back. It's not bad, but there are better options.

I know i know, but if its has Asuka's properties, it be great since her d+3+4 is like Jin's but her first hit is low.
d/f+2 does need CH, but if you dont get a CH, go b~f+2,1 and it will launch. I tried it and works, and of course your right, chances are slim but if used properly (I cant explain) its pretty good.
The axe kicklauncher isnt bad, not very decent damage (unless you go b/f+2,1,2~2(whiffed)2(if hit),3) but better then having an axe kick only  

[Icege]

Miyavi San

Icege

IB: Fear? Never and nobody. Respect? Highly.

Miyavi: d+3+4 hits mid first. It's Jin's low parry punisher. Whiffing is when you attack and it hits nothing but air. d/f+2 needs to be CH to launch, and chances of hitting that are slim. CDS+1 (electric version) is great for wake up since it's only jab punishable, which makes it a viable option as opposed to iWS+2. The axe kick launcher isn't a real launcher and kinda sucks. Let me take that back. It's not bad, but there are better options.

I know i know, but if its has Asuka's properties, it be great since her d+3+4 is like Jin's but her first hit is low.
d/f+2 does need CH, but if you dont get a CH, go b~f+2,1 and it will launch. I tried it and works, and of course your right, chances are slim but if used properly (I cant explain) its pretty good.
The axe kicklauncher isnt bad, not very decent damage (unless you go b/f+2,1,2~2(whiffed)2(if hit),3) but better then having an axe kick only

I think it'd be a little worse actually. Though Asuka's 1st hit is low, the 2nd hit is high and it is not an NC. That means Jin would have nothing off of a low parry. Even though it's mid, it's an NC. Asuka has to get a CH for a launch.

Plus, people that play against Asuka on the regular can duck the 2nd hit once they get hit by the 1st. Similar to how people playing against Hwoarang can duck the 2nd hit of d+4,4.

After ff+3,1, can't you get b,f+2,1,2 or d/b+2,2,3? Even with just the ff+3, Kaz still gets massive follow-ups and so does Heihachi.

Bait traps only work so many times. Plus, if you're getting bait traps with d/f+2, you're better off getting other things on CH (ie: d/f+3)  

[Miyavi San]

Icege

Miyavi San

Icege

IB: Fear? Never and nobody. Respect? Highly.

Miyavi: d+3+4 hits mid first. It's Jin's low parry punisher. Whiffing is when you attack and it hits nothing but air. d/f+2 needs to be CH to launch, and chances of hitting that are slim. CDS+1 (electric version) is great for wake up since it's only jab punishable, which makes it a viable option as opposed to iWS+2. The axe kick launcher isn't a real launcher and kinda sucks. Let me take that back. It's not bad, but there are better options.

I know i know, but if its has Asuka's properties, it be great since her d+3+4 is like Jin's but her first hit is low.
d/f+2 does need CH, but if you dont get a CH, go b~f+2,1 and it will launch. I tried it and works, and of course your right, chances are slim but if used properly (I cant explain) its pretty good.
The axe kicklauncher isnt bad, not very decent damage (unless you go b/f+2,1,2~2(whiffed)2(if hit),3) but better then having an axe kick only

I think it'd be a little worse actually. Though Asuka's 1st hit is low, the 2nd hit is high and it is not an NC. That means Jin would have nothing off of a low parry. Even though it's mid, it's an NC. Asuka has to get a CH for a launch.

Plus, people that play against Asuka on the regular can duck the 2nd hit once they get hit by the 1st. Similar to how people playing against Hwoarang can duck the 2nd hit of d+4,4.

After ff+3,1, can't you get b,f+2,1,2 or d/b+2,2,3? Even with just the ff+3, Kaz still gets massive follow-ups and so does Heihachi.

Bait traps only work so many times. Plus, if you're getting bait traps with d/f+2, you're better off getting other things on CH (ie: d/f+3)

NC?

If the second hit is a mid...if you duck, wouldnt you get hit? since mid hits lows too.

you can get b,f+2,1,2 or d/b+2,2,3. I never tried finding ways with bf212 but as for d/b+2,2,3 you can ff+3,1~1,2~d/b+2,2,3 or perhaps more.  

[Icege]

Miyavi San

Icege

Miyavi San

Icege

IB: Fear? Never and nobody. Respect? Highly.

Miyavi: d+3+4 hits mid first. It's Jin's low parry punisher. Whiffing is when you attack and it hits nothing but air. d/f+2 needs to be CH to launch, and chances of hitting that are slim. CDS+1 (electric version) is great for wake up since it's only jab punishable, which makes it a viable option as opposed to iWS+2. The axe kick launcher isn't a real launcher and kinda sucks. Let me take that back. It's not bad, but there are better options.

I know i know, but if its has Asuka's properties, it be great since her d+3+4 is like Jin's but her first hit is low.
d/f+2 does need CH, but if you dont get a CH, go b~f+2,1 and it will launch. I tried it and works, and of course your right, chances are slim but if used properly (I cant explain) its pretty good.
The axe kicklauncher isnt bad, not very decent damage (unless you go b/f+2,1,2~2(whiffed)2(if hit),3) but better then having an axe kick only

I think it'd be a little worse actually. Though Asuka's 1st hit is low, the 2nd hit is high and it is not an NC. That means Jin would have nothing off of a low parry. Even though it's mid, it's an NC. Asuka has to get a CH for a launch.

Plus, people that play against Asuka on the regular can duck the 2nd hit once they get hit by the 1st. Similar to how people playing against Hwoarang can duck the 2nd hit of d+4,4.

After ff+3,1, can't you get b,f+2,1,2 or d/b+2,2,3? Even with just the ff+3, Kaz still gets massive follow-ups and so does Heihachi.

Bait traps only work so many times. Plus, if you're getting bait traps with d/f+2, you're better off getting other things on CH (ie: d/f+3)

NC?

If the second hit is a mid...if you duck, wouldnt you get hit? since mid hits lows too.

you can get b,f+2,1,2 or d/b+2,2,3. I never tried finding ways with bf212 but as for d/b+2,2,3 you can ff+3,1~1,2~d/b+2,2,3 or perhaps more.

Natural Combo.

The 2nd hit is high for both.

If you can ff+3,1, could you b,f+2,1, d/b+2,2,3? Or ff+3, b,f+2,1, d/b+2,2,3?  

[Ayane Kriyo]

Been a long while since I've been here. I won't say a lot since I don't play Jin, but his axe kicks (forget which one) provide nice oki.  

[Taz06]

Well i would say the list is about right from my experience, although there could be slight changes the overall skill level is in the right order but we can also argue that using a weak character, and finally mastering his/her/its ability you could be indestructible. But i have also found that to master a higher player is more difficult and that most of there moves are powerful and not realy that fun to play.

 

[Icege]

Taz06

Well i would say the list is about right from my experience, although there could be slight changes the overall skill level is in the right order but we can also argue that using a weak character, and finally mastering his/her/its ability you could be indestructible. But i have also found that to master a higher player is more difficult and that most of there moves are powerful and not realy that fun to play.

I have no idea what he just said. Translation?  

[Half Man-half otaku]

The b+ list is a little off Bryan Asuka and Xiao are in the A zone at least!  

[Icege]

crazyraccoon

The b+ list is a little off Bryan Asuka and Xiao are in the A zone at least!

Please list reasons why. Practical reasons at not. Not garbage such as, "Xiaoyu is so fast and quick!! lawl!"  

[Shin Oni]

crazyraccoon

The b+ list is a little off Bryan Asuka and Xiao are in the A zone at least!

Bryan's still good but not 5.0 good. no easy b+1 launching mainly...otherwise his game is still there and he got extra moves...what more do you want.

Xiao...she's find in b+. she has enough mixups to either support her or ******** her over. she has some damn good SS game.

Asuka...doesn't have really anything going for her. whatever that new move she got (that elbow move) makes her anything decent. otherwise, she'd be alittle lower.