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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:00 pm
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:23 pm
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:20 pm
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Mr.Waulrus Fools we are indeed. We spend our lives arguing about whether there is or isn't a God, but what does it matter? Every religion claims that you will go to some equivalent of hell or heaven depending on how you lead your life. So why does it matter if there is a God or not? If there is one we are destined to either hell or heaven. If there isn't we die and only memories, whether good or bad about us live on. We are asking the wrong questions people. It matters not if there is one or not. If there is a god and you lead a good life, you go to heaven. If there is a god and you lead a bad life you go to hell. Simple, no? And if there is no god but you live a good life, you may have lived your whole life as a lie but you did good in the world so who can blame you? Honestly, who has the right to blame you for following a false idea of a nonexistent deity if by doing that you did good in the world? -Die Hard Atheist
I'm personally not against people who spend their time helping people in the name of a god. I'm against people who hurt others in the name of a god, and people who call other people evil if they don't worship the same god as they do. It's a tragedy. Every time I'm reminded of the Israel-Palestine conflict, the Holocaust, the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Troubles, or September 11th, I think about what the world would be like without religion. Would it be more peaceful? Would there be more war? Who knows. All I know is that some people do evil in the name of the gods they worship. I'm atheist only until people get their stories straight, and agree on a single, unified story about the creation of the universe, how we should treat each other, and the like.
I try to live my life as good as I can. Not because I'm trying to be on the safe side, but because other people are in this life with me, and it doesn't hurt to have companions while you're here.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:53 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:43 am
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:47 am
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:02 am
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:35 pm
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:02 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:30 am
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+Pershiw+ Yes, I guess that does make sense. But, if we live our lives as the kindest most gracious, law-abiding people, and we don't believe in god, then why should we go to hell? aren't you supposed to be judged on the things you did, not what you believe in? and if there is a god, why would he give us the freedom to not believe in him, and then just send us to 'hell' when we die?
That's where the conflict with Christianity, in particular, arises.
The original concept was that any respectable, moral person would flock to it as a bastion of hope and, indeed, for a while, they did. It was only a few hundred years, though, until they had taken a significant majority, and gone the way that we see now.
While for all intents and purposes, it HAS worked, quite beautifully, it's a flawed concept to try and unite the world under religion. It's something that cannot be all-inclusive, and it will never include all, as there will always be those that think differently than others.
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:25 pm
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