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 Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:20 pm
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Baron von Turkeypants Miss Anthropist Baron von Turkeypants Soy un hombre muy honrado,
que me gusta lo mejor "Everything is a choice"?
Reminds me of a film I saw a few months ago which made me sick to my stomach. Some guy said something similar (people choose when they're born and who their parents are), to which the obviously reply, of course, is "OK guys, I'm gonna be born as a Jew during the Spanish Inquisition in Spain because that sounds like fun!"
Not everything is a choice. Las mujeres no me faltan,
ni el dinero ni el amor Points understood: reading: 1 reading literally without any thought as to what it means: 0 Soy un hombre muy honrado,
que me gusta lo mejor
Well thank you, now I know I'm winning rolleyes
Las mujeres no me faltan,
ni el dinero ni el amor
Perhaps a better word for me to use would have been decision. You decide which argument makes more sense to you. |
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:27 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:24 pm
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Radioactive Jell-O Mr. Woman well, i was raised into aithiesm(sp).
so i guess i got out luckey, except maybe for my parent clash.
dad: radical christian
Mother: no religion whatso ever. My parents are the reverse. gonk Except my mom(the Christian parent)used to be a porn star. Ever heard of Taylor Haze?
Yeah. And this one website says she's still a party girl. gonk Is she your mom, and are you aware she's still doing porn?! |
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:30 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:49 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:53 pm
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Baron von Turkeypants Sanguvixen If someone where to come up to you and claim that an invisible gaurdian spirit that looks like a dragon is behind them, protecting them...is it a choice to not believe them?
Now, I'm just going with my own line of thought here, because it sense...
When you come to the realization that dragons are not real, and why they are not real, and take the process of that realization and apply it to religion...then you understand why gods and goddess are not real, and why you can deny thier existance without having to prove it.
When you disbelieve in elves, dragons, and the Invisble Pink Unicorn, you don't have to disprove the existance of those things. The person making the original claim that those things exist carries the burden of proof.
If you are presented with an extraordinary claim, and the one making that claim cannot present extraordinary evidence, it's only logical to choose to not believe them. I think many atheists and even agnostics reach this cross-roads where the claims made by religion are not backed up by any sort of solid evidence...and so they think..."Hmmmmmm." Soy un hombre muy honrado,
que me gusta lo mejor So you're telling me you're capable of choosing definitively your beliefs one way or another when there isn't evidence to support either side?
Beliefs aren't choices. Las mujeres no me faltan,
ni el dinero ni el amor
Maybe... I'm saying that I choose logic over many other things. If someone walks up and says a magical pink unicorn is living in the sun and created everything with three magical blasts of light from her horn...I'm going to blow them off.
That is my choice to not believe them. Beliefs are a choice....but choices don't always reflect beliefs. You can support abortion but choose to not have one. But to blow off an extraordinary claim in the absence of extraordinary proof is simply logical.
Want to make me believe something? Is it an extraordinary claim? Have extraordinary proof, or don't bring it up at all.
Pink Dolphins exist in the amazon, and if you don't believe me you can look it up. Pink Unicorns in the sun? You'd just be trying to pull my chain.
Quote: there isn't evidence to support either side
Is it not the least bit suspicious when someone wants you to believe in something and they can't bring up evidence...because the capture of evidence is...well...slightly not possible? Thats religion. You can't really offer evidence of a god and that is what makes the whole thing tricky.
You either believe despite the absence of proof, or you disbelieve because of the absence of proof. In that way you are strangely not different than a believer by being a non-believer. The only other option is to remain undecided and become a fence sitter. |
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