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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:27 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:14 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:45 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:47 am
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I really like the second description. It sort of reminds me of Anne Rice's vampires. I also really like this "Mother of Darkness" aspect. That could become very interesting.
Okay so here's what I was originally thinking of for our vampires (let me know what you think, perhaps we could take parts and make our own):
Vampires have the characteristics of a separate species, which contrasts with most vampire stories which portray vampires as transformed humans. Vampires can have children among themselves and with humans, and they age, albeit at a much slower rate than humans. Vampires are nocturnal and they dislike sunlight, but exposure to it does not harm them. They are likewise immune to most of the traditional vampire weaknesses such as crosses, garlic, and holy water. They can also regenerate quickly and easily when wounded, therefore, making them very hard to kill unless a weapon made especially for vampire hunting is used. Vampires organize their society based on the purity of their blood. Level A are the Purebloods - a very small but very powerful minority. Only a bite from a Pureblood can change a human into a vampire. Pureblood siblings sometimes marry each other to keep the bloodline pure, which is not a rare practice. Level B refers to Noble vampires with advanced powers. Ordinary vampires make up Level C, by far the largest group. Level D consists of vampires who were once human; they are a small group, as turning humans into vampires is forbidden and only a handful of Level A vampires would dare to. The final designation, Level E, is separated from the others because it is reserved for former human vampires who have become violently insane. Falling to Level E is considered the inevitable fate of all former human vampires, who can never completely accept their vampiric instincts and their need for blood. Although, a Level D vampire can prevent itself from ever becoming a Level E if they drink the blood of the Pureblood who created them. Level D or E vampires are left in the care of Level B vampires and purebloods, so they can keep them in check.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:44 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:25 pm
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Also, in response, I would like to propose a separate theory. I understand Chaos doesn't like the concept of all vampires having originally been human. Neither do I. I also agree with Ronyo, however. But fear not! I had something else in mind.
Rather than being a 'biological anomaly', the vampires are a unique breed of demons.
Concept A) Too weak to live in hell but nevertheless far more powerful than any mortal being, vampires were cast aside by the devil and thus managed to circumvent the pact between him and God, settling themselves on Earth. Few in numbers, they found it difficult to achieve their goals by force. So, the vampires stuck to the shadows, seeding their influence by slowly taking over the hierarchy of humanity. They have similar weaknesses to demons, such as enchanted wood and silver. Though demons by blood, holy water and crucifixes are rarely lethal to a vampire, though they do cause them harm.
Concept B) Dracula, that Romanian prince, angers his family by ruthlessly massacring their subjects. Dracula is imprisoned, but makes a pact with the devil himself to seed his revenge. The intense evil of his soul empowers the curse which the devil gifts him with, resulting in the first vampire. His children follow suit, technically being part demon. They have similar weaknesses to demons, such as enchanted wood and silver. Holy water and crucifixes are rarely lethal to a vampire, though they do cause them harm.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:04 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:14 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:18 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:34 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:48 pm
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:58 am
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I personally feel that both sides should have a weakness to silver when it penetrates the skin. Being deathly allergic to it sounds kind of hokey. I like the enchanted wood concept quite a bit myself, perhaps making it specific types of wood. White oak seems to have some significance:
Quote: Creature Killer rounds are tipped with explosive shells that contain white oak, holy water, garlic, silver and cold iron shavings. These ingredients, each bearing a folkloric power to impede evil and/or specific monsters (e.g. vampires, werewolves, witches, etc.), have the potential to injure many of the foes Hellboy may face.
I believe the significance of crucifixes, garlic, and holy water should be that holy water is basically pepper spray for vampires. When it touches skin it gives an uncomfortable itch and possibly burns, depending on how strong/old the vampire is. Weapons (ex. arrow heads) coated in holy water add the bonus of giving a strong magical infection to the wound, greatly dulling the vampires regenerative abilities. Crucifixes, on the other hand, only work when blessed, and serves to ward off lesser vampires, like waving a flaming torch at a wolf. Garlic could be an alchemical herb, used in combination with other things to create a variety of elixirs which help against vampires. Garlic itself is useless against them, however.
I'll post some relevant werewolf info on that thread as well.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:17 am
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