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Rainbowfied Mouse
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:52 pm
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I don't define myself with any party truly, however I am a liberal at heart. I've always been for thinking everyone get's rights until someone's rights are interferred [an unborn child is a someone,] and that people deserve a better chance at this world with equal education opportunities and poor people deserve better lifestyle's with more welfare. I think we should become dependent on ourselves for energy, and should put more public programs into the research and use of reusable resources... and put taxes on things that will destroy our environment.  
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:07 pm
I support the Liberal Party of Australia because it was founded on true/classical liberalism not modern American leftist "liberalism". Sir Robert Menzies, our longest serving and arguably greatest prime minister, believed in individualism, free enterprise, the free market, and a strong stance against communism when the alternative was the socialist Labor Party. In recent years we had John Howard, the second-longest serving PM, who stood by his conservative principles in spite of the P.C. Gestapo that wants to see Australia become a culture-less black hole that's apparently never achieved anything outside the mistreatment of aboriginies. The 11 years of John Howard were among Australia's most prosperous (and the same anti-Australian "progressives" dismiss it as merely a mining boom rather than successful economic management and Australian hard work...get real!)  

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Garrett31212

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:09 pm
I support the American Fascist Party simply because I'm a Fascist. I support the ideas of Nationalism, Corporatism, and Collectivism. Some of it's views are more liberal than they should be, but with some adjustments it could become something.  
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:06 pm
DanskiWolf
I support the Liberal Party of Australia because it was founded on true/classical liberalism not modern American leftist "liberalism".


you wanna trade liberal parties? rolleyes

I'm republican because I believe in independence and self-efficiency. I believe in people, I believe that when humanity is given the chance w/o the burdan of taxes and regulations, they can make the world a better place. I don't believe in welfare because the poor does not need the help of the government to make a better life themselves--> ie Chris Gardner and many others. Clarence Thomas is also an inspiration. I believe in the Constitution and not the government.
I believe in people, that we all should have rights and have our rights protected and be able to protect our rights.
I can't believe in the thinking that the government must tell us what to do because we don't know better. We do know better.
High taxes puts burdens on the economy, making people loose their jobs and the rich hide their money.  

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Kira84

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:14 am
I'm Republican because the Constitution Party has about a snowball's chance in hell of winning.  
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:29 pm
Kira84
I'm Republican because the Constitution Party has about a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

My father would be in that party if third parties had a better chance, I wish they did, because we are in fact a diverse country, and I don't believe two parties should be able to define us.

I would be part of a party that is almost all democrat, but has the exception of abortion, right to bear arms, and a few other issues of which I have a conservative opinion.  

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Kira84

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:39 am
Rainbowfied Mouse
Kira84
I'm Republican because the Constitution Party has about a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

My father would be in that party if third parties had a better chance, I wish they did, because we are in fact a diverse country, and I don't believe two parties should be able to define us.

I would be part of a party that is almost all democrat, but has the exception of abortion, right to bear arms, and a few other issues of which I have a conservative opinion.


The two party system is really limiting... Plus it allows people to just vote along party lines without looking at the issues. If there were more parties it would be confusing enough that people would at least have to do a little research before voting... ideally... Maybe I'm being optimistic here.

As things are, it's a vicious cycle. People never vote for third parties because they always lose. As a result... they lose.

I think the two party system should be dissolved entirely and new parties should be named for their ideologies (like, conservative and liberal instead of democrat and republican).  
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:07 pm
Kira84
Rainbowfied Mouse
Kira84
I'm Republican because the Constitution Party has about a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

My father would be in that party if third parties had a better chance, I wish they did, because we are in fact a diverse country, and I don't believe two parties should be able to define us.

I would be part of a party that is almost all democrat, but has the exception of abortion, right to bear arms, and a few other issues of which I have a conservative opinion.


The two party system is really limiting... Plus it allows people to just vote along party lines without looking at the issues. If there were more parties it would be confusing enough that people would at least have to do a little research before voting... ideally... Maybe I'm being optimistic here.

As things are, it's a vicious cycle. People never vote for third parties because they always lose. As a result... they lose.

I think the two party system should be dissolved entirely and new parties should be named for their ideologies (like, conservative and liberal instead of democrat and republican).


I'm more of a George Washington fan.... no parties
George Washington
The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish Government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established Government.

All obstructions to the execution of the Laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They [political parties] serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation, the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels, and modified by mutual interests.

However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government; destroying afterwards the very engines, which have lifted them to unjust dominion.
 

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:44 pm
I'm Republican because I believe in lowering all forms of taxes. Especially business tax. I also believe in the right to bear arms, right of life for the unborn and I believe in the War in Iraq.  
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:28 pm
Rainbowfied Mouse
Kira84
Rainbowfied Mouse
Kira84
I'm Republican because the Constitution Party has about a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

My father would be in that party if third parties had a better chance, I wish they did, because we are in fact a diverse country, and I don't believe two parties should be able to define us.

I would be part of a party that is almost all democrat, but has the exception of abortion, right to bear arms, and a few other issues of which I have a conservative opinion.


The two party system is really limiting... Plus it allows people to just vote along party lines without looking at the issues. If there were more parties it would be confusing enough that people would at least have to do a little research before voting... ideally... Maybe I'm being optimistic here.

As things are, it's a vicious cycle. People never vote for third parties because they always lose. As a result... they lose.

I think the two party system should be dissolved entirely and new parties should be named for their ideologies (like, conservative and liberal instead of democrat and republican).


I'm more of a George Washington fan.... no parties
George Washington
The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish Government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established Government.

All obstructions to the execution of the Laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They [political parties] serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation, the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels, and modified by mutual interests.

However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government; destroying afterwards the very engines, which have lifted them to unjust dominion.


A good point. But parties help candidates raise money and whatnot.... people just sort of naturally form groups to accomplish a common goal. It's unavoidable, a necessary evil.

I just would prefer a system with a large number of relatively powerless parties to the system we have now. I think we're currently in the 'potent engines' stage he talks about.

(About the delay in response: college homework. Lots. With citations, which I never learned how to do. x_x)  

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:45 am
V for Vendeta
People should not fear their government, the government should fear their people.


I love that quote. I think if a person is known well enough there shouldn't be a problem getting a fund started for their campaign! Teddy Roosevelt did it for the Bull-Moose Party!  
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:17 pm
Rainbowfied Mouse
V for Vendeta
People should not fear their government, the government should fear their people.


I love that quote. I think if a person is known well enough there shouldn't be a problem getting a fund started for their campaign! Teddy Roosevelt did it for the Bull-Moose Party!


I'll have to disagree with that quote. How can a government succesfully run the country, if it has to constantly fear the people, or run into bureaucracy prohibting necessary laws from being passed?  

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:27 pm
I don't think it's talking about literal fear, as in being afraid of, but rather like as God used fear in the old testament, knowing that the gov't is not the domain, rather the people, and that the people will not elect you again if you're evil/dishonest/bad/ect.  
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