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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:55 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:27 pm
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XarxesLeviathan Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Okay, I have read Liber Al vel Legis, and I agree with the core conept of Thelema which is True Will. I want to learn what I can do to grow and become a real Thelemite. What are some of the practices? What are some good starter rituals that I should study and learn? Questions like that, any help would be greatly appreciated Love is the law, love under will.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
Start working on Asana and Pranayama. Just simple steps, nothing complicated.
Also, learn the Star Ruby Ritual. Very important for Thelemites. LBRP works too, but I like Star Ruby.
Liber Resh, read it.
Nattford and Arcanist are very good helpers locally on Gaia, although like they said you'll want to check our the O.T.O body nearest you or A.:A.; if possible.
I'm also here for you if you'd like.
A site I found that will do wonders:
A.;A.; Reading List, many online publications for easy use
Love is the law, Love under will.
Mihi Cura Futuri
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:47 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:32 pm
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XarxesLeviathan 93 Thank you all very much for your advice. Now I only have one more question, what is the difference between the O.T.O and the A.'.A.'.? Is one better than the other? Which one did Crowley himself prefer? 93 93/93
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Sorry for the late reply! Didn't see this thread had been updated...
Well, how shall I explain this one...?
Both are teaching "schools" you could say, of Thelema. But the A.:.A.:. is a more individual, solitary thing than the O.T.O (Think loosely of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Thelema style.) You interact only with your superior (idealistically) and do most of the work on your own.
O.T.O is more of a Thelemic...I'd like to say worship group but not everyone takes religion from Thelema, only those like myself...more social. Group oriented. Usually local areas, particularly in the U.S. It's like a temple/interest club, depending on your view of the religiousity of Thelema.
You can be in both at the same time. No problem there.
There's also the E.G.C: Eclesica Gnostica Catholica. Very RELIGIOUS aspect of Thelema. Imagine , again loosely, the Catholic Church with Thelema instead of Christianity. (Even though the two groups aren't affiliated at all, "Catholic" or not) This is more of an O.T.O thing than an A.:.A.:. thing, but if it doesn't float your boat it's not a requisite thing.
Then there's other smaller groups as well. These are the "biggies" though.
I dunno if there was a preference in Crowley's mind. You'll have to ask him. No I'm not sure of how to do that with the dead man's ashes. And is preference really all that important? It's your will and your life.
The guild is slow, I don't check it often. If you wish to email me do so at kileedrifter@yahoo.com...I still maintain PMing Arcanist and/or Nattfodd. (WHY ALWAYS WITH MY "FORD"? HE STRIKES ME AS A CHEVY GUY ANYWAYS!)
It's just faster. Don't worry, no one has lost interest in you. I simply forgot to look.
Love is the law, love under will.
Mihi Cura Futuri
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:06 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:55 pm
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Arcanist Angus "Eat and Ye shall be wise." Said the Serpent unto Eve. Didn't Crowley create the A.:.A.:.? The O.T.O was already in place, Crowley just expanded it and refurbished it as it were.
I could be wrong, my history on the Thelema is kinda rusty.
And behold! Man was born into Consciousness. Hail the Source Eternal! Hail the Master of the Wise!
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Yeah about the A.:.A.:. I'm sure he did. He based it off the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (there are striking similarities between the two; came upon Thelema myself while studying Golden Dawn history)
As for the O.T.O....I'll have to look into that. Good question. Kudos.
Love is the law, love under will.
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