Ghosts and fire

[Tac400]

I'm aware this is probably one of my worst and probably logically unsound ideas, but I was thinking to myself earlier that some spirits present themselves as or emit spiritual flames, and wondered if ones that don't could actually catch fire by spiritual means. Now i'm trying to figure out a way to test it, and could use some advice as to methods I might try, or any issues that might complicate my attempts. I also want to hear criticism if you can offer it. (I really couldn't figure out what sub-forum to put this in.)  

[Magus Initi]

Wait.. So.. you want to set ghosts on fire? Even if it was possible, I must ask - for what purpose??  

[regina_in_exile]

nothing is impossible. only improbable.

i'm thinking that if you were to spiritually try to light some poor ghost on fire, it would be sort of psionically done. i'm thinking that if you wanted to do it, it would be for defensive purposes. (at least i am hoping that...)

it's all about visualization, practice, and control of yourself and your energies and of those around you. i'm sure it could be done, because we cant prove otherwise, can we?  

[Tac400]

regina_in_exile

nothing is impossible. only improbable.

i'm thinking that if you were to spiritually try to light some poor ghost on fire, it would be sort of psionically done. i'm thinking that if you wanted to do it, it would be for defensive purposes. (at least i am hoping that...)

it's all about visualization, practice, and control of yourself and your energies and of those around you. i'm sure it could be done, because we cant prove otherwise, can we?

Thank you very much, i'll have to look more into this.

Magus Young

Wait.. So.. you want to set ghosts on fire? Even if it was possible, I must ask - for what purpose??

Research, and understanding. I understand if you are skeptical about my intentions, I would be if someone had asked me this question.  

[regina_in_exile]

just dont go around setting random spirits on fire. it's just not polite. but good question. smile  

[Magus Initi]

regina_in_exile

just dont go around setting random spirits on fire. it's just not polite. but good question. smile

I agree. Even if it did work, you don't know what their reaction would be. It could be very dangerous.  

[Garret_Strife]

regina_in_exile

just dont go around setting random spirits on fire. it's just not polite. but good question. smile

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Just saying, be careful, and keep all things in mind. Keep in mind not only cause and effect, but reasoning and reaction as well.
 

[Marokia]

um... why would want to set a spirit on fire? Aren't they suffering enough?

Poor ghosties...

I know what's impossible. Being perfect and normal.  

[regina_in_exile]

how do you know that spirits are suffering?

that is only one way that they are viewed. could it simply be another existence on a plane on the other side of the veil? could it be a spirit that was never a person, but just a coherent energy? you dont know, and it would be wise never to assume.  

[Neamhain Riona]

I can't help but laugh at this one. I wish you luck in finding out if you can or not.  

[Marokia]

regina_in_exile

how do you know that spirits are suffering?

that is only one way that they are viewed. could it simply be another existence on a plane on the other side of the veil? could it be a spirit that was never a person, but just a coherent energy? you dont know, and it would be wise never to assume.

well most of the time((not all the time mind you)) I find that ghosts are clinging to the world because of a horrible death, they're afriad to go, or they still have something to do here and they're suffering as it is.  

[CottonCandyDragon]

Marokia

regina_in_exile

how do you know that spirits are suffering?

that is only one way that they are viewed. could it simply be another existence on a plane on the other side of the veil? could it be a spirit that was never a person, but just a coherent energy? you dont know, and it would be wise never to assume.

well most of the time((not all the time mind you)) I find that ghosts are clinging to the world because of a horrible death, they're afriad to go, or they still have something to do here and they're suffering as it is.

I'm sorry Marokia I want to be entirely clear on this.
I'm not hating on you or intending to be cruel.
I just think you have no idea what you're talking about.
a spirit isn't only a departed mortal, and most certainly not "only" one who has suffered a painful passing.
there are spirits of nature and even artificial spirits.
Consider the Kami.
Consider the Domovoi.

just a thought.
and the topic is about spirits/spiritual creatures/entities not only ghosts yes?  

[Captain Chemosh]

On paper it seems possible, but I believe that since ghosts and the like don't properly exist on our plane that you could not set them on fire. Likewise a spiritual fire, such as a will-o-wisp would not burn you, since it is only partially in contact with our plane...  

[Ishtar Shakti]

Well... I'm pretty sure what looks like fire when it comes to spirits isn't actually fire. I'm pretty sure fire is the release of energy from breaking binds chemical in physical chemical reactions so I would assume the closest thing you could do is pretty much destroy the spirits form. This would be wrong?

You can of course make the semblance of this without actually hurting anything though by altering the ambient energy around the spirit ... kind of like bending light to make an illusion.

As to burning the spirit... I don't think that's the best way to remove them from this world. That is all that they have left and well... you might destroy the spirit so that they can't exist on any other plane if you do "burn them" or break them down till they can't exist here. You are removing there energy... and rather then being a leech and absorbing it you'd just be releasing it as ambient energy. Burning a spirit like that I think would be even more unethical then a psychic vampire. Thats why people when removing a spirit burns the object the spirit is attached to Not the spirit. In order for a spirit to manifest it has to work through a physical object and attach itself to that. A well founded spirit will do alot of work changing the object so that its will can work through it. A less well founded spirit might just attach to whatever is nearest and might move around a bit. In anycase all you have to do is remove its anchor and it can't stay here