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ScarletFrost Vice Captain
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 Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:41 pm
I am a HUGE book fan. Seriously, I want to live in a book store or library. As it is, my collection is pretty extensive and eclectic.
Kushiel's--by Jacqueline Carey
I would most recommend this series (2 trilogies, actually) to anyone who likes sex AND high fantasy. Yep, cant get much better than that, right? Well, the heroine is a masochist who feels pain as pleasure, and a professional "companion." Using her highly honed skills of seduction, observation, and espionage, she saves the kingdom from one of the darkest and most beautiful usurper. Very well written.
Mistborn--by Brandon Sanderson
Best trilogy ending EVER!!! I cannot praise it enough. Truly an awesome series. Just trust me, get it from the library and read it. You'll get hooked right away.
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:08 pm
Fugitive Pieces - Anne Michaels
My favourite novel. An absolutely beautifully written book.
Oryx and Crake/The Year of the Flood- Margaret Atwood
The former, written a few years ago, and her newest novel (sort of a sequel). Very disturbing, but I believe valid, like much of her work. Very well written and engaging.
The Handmaid's Tale - Margaret Atwood
Again, disturbing, but I believe, again, quite valid. Increasingly so as we move forward.
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:51 pm
heh. Frost, your first book doesn't realy sound like my type of read, oddly enough, but i might give it a try anyway. smile
anywho, my list...
1.) anything by Francesca Lia Block. she is a great author, my personal favourite. i would suggest the following books by her specifically though:
~ Dangerous Angels: The Weatzie Bat Books
~ Girl Goddess #9
~ The Rose And The Beast
~ I was A Teenage Faerie
2.) Smack. by Melvin Burgess. this book is based on a true story about two teenagers who run away to London and become addicted to heroin after meeting two other addicts. it is written in a very great first-person style that switches from character's to character's viewpoints as the story progresses.
3.) Shadow People. by Joyce MacDonald. another story about teenagers, where a group of them go throughout their hellish life and all wind up tangled in one big mess. some of them form a sort of gang, being manipulated masterfully by a very messed up kid. action packed, full of suspence, emotion, and with a feel that reminds me personally of nickalodean in the 90's, back with that "Are You Afraid Of The Dark" feel mixed with "Animorphs" or the show about teh girl who turns into water, ya know? except there's no superpowers of any kind.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:48 pm
Chieftain Twilight heh. Frost, your first book doesn't realy sound like my type of read, oddly enough, but i might give it a try anyway. smile I would think it'd be right up your alley. It's hard to describe to a general audience, but a lot of the religious parodies are really interesting. Jews become Christians, Christians follow the blood-son of Yeshua ben Yosef (Jesus Christ) and Earth is her own diety as well, the Celt's being described as Earth's oldest children. Terre D'Ange (shaped suspiciously like modern-day France) is the home of the children of men and angles. They follow the precept of Blessed Elua: Love as thou wilt. Superficially, that means that any type of love is acceptable, and is accommodated by one of the Houses of Night Blooming Flowers. But beyond the obvious sexuality, there is the larger, over reaching theme of "What would YOU do for love?" Kill? Find the killers? Offer up your body? Your soul? And what is it that you truly love so much? Yourself? Your mentor? Your sovereign? Your country? Your god? Another recommendation for the general reader: the Black Jewels Trilogy, by Anne Bishop. I think the worst part of the book was that the author couldn't find more original names, and thus made Satan the lord of hell a good guy and hell is a good place, and his sons Daemon and Lucivar are also heroes. But aside from the uncomfortable references, the story is really good. My favorite part was in the first book, where the main heroine is sent to a school for "special children." Turns out the school is actually a feeding ground for ***** the cool part is what the heroine does about it. She creates a spell/disease that infects everyone who came to the school. It's pretty much a "golden rule" type thing, where every villain feels every wrong thing he ever did to one of the children. Only after they've experienced the suffering they themselves dealt are they finally allowed to die. twisted
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ScarletFrost Vice Captain
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:39 pm
ScarletFrost Chieftain Twilight heh. Frost, your first book doesn't realy sound like my type of read, oddly enough, but i might give it a try anyway. smile I would think it'd be right up your alley. It's hard to describe to a general audience, but a lot of the religious parodies are really interesting. Jews become Christians, Christians follow the blood-son of Yeshua ben Yosef (Jesus Christ) and Earth is her own diety as well, the Celt's being described as Earth's oldest children. Terre D'Ange (shaped suspiciously like modern-day France) is the home of the children of men and angles. They follow the precept of Blessed Elua: Love as thou wilt. Superficially, that means that any type of love is acceptable, and is accommodated by one of the Houses of Night Blooming Flowers. But beyond the obvious sexuality, there is the larger, over reaching theme of "What would YOU do for love?" Kill? Find the killers? Offer up your body? Your soul? And what is it that you truly love so much? Yourself? Your mentor? Your sovereign? Your country? Your god? Huh, interesting... o.o that sounds MUCH more interesting. ScarletFrost Another recommendation for the general reader: the Black Jewels Trilogy, by Anne Bishop. I think the worst part of the book was that the author couldn't find more original names, and thus made Satan the lord of hell a good guy and hell is a good place, and his sons Daemon and Lucivar are also heroes. But aside from the uncomfortable references, the story is really good. My favorite part was in the first book, where the main heroine is sent to a school for "special children." Turns out the school is actually a feeding ground for ***** the cool part is what the heroine does about it. She creates a spell/disease that infects everyone who came to the school. It's pretty much a "golden rule" type thing, where every villain feels every wrong thing he ever did to one of the children. Only after they've experienced the suffering they themselves dealt are they finally allowed to die. twisted oh my! eek 1.) i don't see what is so disturbing about Satan and his sons being heros. 2.) that is quite sick.... overly harsh in my opinion... not to mention a very complete imbalance of a person's soul. but then again, we come from different Spiritual beliefs.... i do have to say though, that's an incredibly frightening level of judgement you are presenting me with here... i may want to avoid that book...
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:56 pm
Chieftain Twilight ScarletFrost Another recommendation for the general reader: the Black Jewels Trilogy, by Anne Bishop. I think the worst part of the book was that the author couldn't find more original names, and thus made Satan the lord of hell a good guy and hell is a good place, and his sons Daemon and Lucivar are also heroes. But aside from the uncomfortable references, the story is really good. My favorite part was in the first book, where the main heroine is sent to a school for "special children." Turns out the school is actually a feeding ground for ***** the cool part is what the heroine does about it. She creates a spell/disease that infects everyone who came to the school. It's pretty much a "golden rule" type thing, where every villain feels every wrong thing he ever did to one of the children. Only after they've experienced the suffering they themselves dealt are they finally allowed to die. twisted oh my! eek 1.) i don't see what is so disturbing about Satan and his sons being heros. 2.) that is quite sick.... overly harsh in my opinion... not to mention a very complete imbalance of a person's soul. but then again, we come from different Spiritual beliefs.... i do have to say though, that's an incredibly frightening level of judgement you are presenting me with here... i may want to avoid that book... 1) I didn't say disturbing, I said uncomfortable. As a life long christian, I am instantly wary of things like that. But at the same time, it's not so much of a road block that I can't see and understand the rest of the story. And that was the worst part of the book. The plot, characters, and the writing style are all very enjoyable. 2) You have never been violently, sexually assaulted, have you? I tried to skip over the gory parts about what actually went on at the "school." As a solitary example, the "carrot patch" was where they buried the red heads after they had been used up. I think it's exactly what they deserve, but I have a more harsh sense of justice than most, I suppose. It's what being on the short end of enough sticks will do to you.
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ScarletFrost Vice Captain
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:10 pm
ScarletFrost Chieftain Twilight ScarletFrost Another recommendation for the general reader: the Black Jewels Trilogy, by Anne Bishop. I think the worst part of the book was that the author couldn't find more original names, and thus made Satan the lord of hell a good guy and hell is a good place, and his sons Daemon and Lucivar are also heroes. But aside from the uncomfortable references, the story is really good. My favorite part was in the first book, where the main heroine is sent to a school for "special children." Turns out the school is actually a feeding ground for ***** the cool part is what the heroine does about it. She creates a spell/disease that infects everyone who came to the school. It's pretty much a "golden rule" type thing, where every villain feels every wrong thing he ever did to one of the children. Only after they've experienced the suffering they themselves dealt are they finally allowed to die. twisted oh my! eek 1.) i don't see what is so disturbing about Satan and his sons being heros. 2.) that is quite sick.... overly harsh in my opinion... not to mention a very complete imbalance of a person's soul. but then again, we come from different Spiritual beliefs.... i do have to say though, that's an incredibly frightening level of judgement you are presenting me with here... i may want to avoid that book... 1) I didn't say disturbing, I said uncomfortable. As a life long christian, I am instantly wary of things like that. But at the same time, it's not so much of a road block that I can't see and understand the rest of the story. And that was the worst part of the book. The plot, characters, and the writing style are all very enjoyable. 2) You have never been violently, sexually assaulted, have you? I tried to skip over the gory parts about what actually went on at the "school." As a solitary example, the "carrot patch" was where they buried the red heads after they had been used up. I think it's exactly what they deserve, but I have a more harsh sense of justice than most, I suppose. It's what being on the short end of enough sticks will do to you. well, actually, contrary to what many people believe, i have been bruttally raped a number of occaisions. sweatdrop and i'm not talking just bound and taken for a long time, i'm talking seriously demented sadistic abuse. try taking an 18 inch long, 2 inch thick, stainless steel d***o up tightly-clenched dry hairy a**. the most embarressng part about that? that one was a catholic girl who used to be my mistress. never mind what the drunk truckers and hobos downtown did to me. i have also been on the opposite end. i have raped. it realy isn't my thing, so i went back to my usual hunting style of subtle manipulation, but even then i have a tendancy to become quite violent and demanding... my point is, i know these types of scenarios very well. inside and out. i still think that that level of "justice" is too harsh. and forgive me, if you will, for staying on my soapbox long enough to also say, that i am quite positively disgusted at the fact that once again i am preaching Forgiveness to a freaking christian. i do respect you Frost, i Love you, you are a good friend of mine. iunderstand where you are coming from with your belief in damnation and Solomonic Justice, babylonian style "an eye for an eye". i do, i get it. i've seen it explained millions of times, and hell, i admit even i would want to take vicious revenge on anyone who did that kind of s**t to anyone i care about, you included. doesn't mean i actually believe it's under any moral code i'd follow. my Honour Code that i devised for myself, states a very clear and important virtue of Forgiveness.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:12 pm
Okay... queued up some of these and if I ever get the chance to read 'em will let you know what I think. Got some of the Kushiel and Mistborn series as well as the three from Margaret Atwood.
Names don't mean bumpkiss to me really... hell I pick names like that just to see if I can ruffle some feathers sometimes. If I ever had a notebook and got on an unsecured network then I'd make sure my computer was called Lucifer or something just to see how the person would take it when they saw their log files that Lucifer connected and download stuff. Course I do have a twisted sense of humor...
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ScarletFrost Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:34 pm
Chieftain Twilight my point is, i know these types of scenarios very well. inside and out. i still think that that level of "justice" is too harsh. and forgive me, if you will, for staying on my soapbox long enough to also say, that i am quite positively disgusted at the fact that once again i am preaching Forgiveness to a freaking christian. i do respect you Frost, i Love you, you are a good friend of mine. iunderstand where you are coming from with your belief in damnation and Solomonic Justice, babylonian style "an eye for an eye". i do, i get it. i've seen it explained millions of times, and hell, i admit even i would want to take vicious revenge on anyone who did that kind of s**t to anyone i care about, you included. doesn't mean i actually believe it's under any moral code i'd follow. my Honour Code that i devised for myself, states a very clear and important virtue of Forgiveness. I'll borrow your soap box for a moment and just say that forgiveness does not take away the consequences of an action, emotional, physical, or spiritual. Even Christianly-preached divine forgiveness is not possible without repentance; the unpardonable sin is one that is never asked to be pardoned. What good is forgiveness if someone doesn't want to change? Turning the other cheek is really an act of mercy, not forgiveness, and it's not intended to benefit the attacker so much as the victim. Willingly giving up the desire for vengeance to a higher authority demonstrates a humble and yielding mentality. But any way I look at it, I don't think experiencing every blow dealt is harsh. Just even-steven. In a book-world that is, for all intents and purposes, godless (at least, I don't remember any gods, except for Tiamat and her mate, which are really dragons and a completely different kettle of fish), a straight across exchange of sensations is not inhumane. I guess what I'm trying to say is I would not be heart broken if my attacker experienced exactly what he put me through. Not more. Not less. Just so he knew how it felt. Maybe it would change him. Maybe it wouldn't. It's not my call to make. Also, I'm not a main-stream Christian. I'm a first-century Christian, which basically means that I don't acknowledge any earthly authority higher than the bible. Not the Catholic church, not Martin Luther, not any modern-day theologian. So I don't believe in the conventional concept of Heaven vs. Hell salvation. I actually believe in something completely different, infinitely more encouraging, and amazingly looked over by most of the Christian community, but this isn't really the forum for that sort of thing. Apologies everyone! razz Anyway, stepping down now. redface Gotta love good literature--it gets you thinking and talking. wink
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:43 pm
heh... well, please don't mistake me Frost, when i talk about Forgiveness.. i certainly don't mean pardoning. more like.. offer them a choice... they can either take what they've dealt out, or promis eto change thei ways... i'd prefer the latter.
but yes. quite. xd
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:03 am
hmmm... such discourse is fun to read. I'll just say that one of my fatal flaws, as I'm sure I have multiple, is that I don't think I have much forgiveness in me at all. I may forget, but I will RARELY forgive. And its not just others, it is to myself as well and as such I will have much time of penance in my next form when this shell passes on.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:34 pm
Golly, I'm almost too scared to admit I like the Black Jewels novels. Though I must admit I prefer the ones that are set after and before the trilogy, with side characters as the protagonist (such as Tangled Webs...I love Surreal).
I'd also reccomend the following(warning...I read alot of Sci-Fi/Fantasy):
- Anything Terry Pratchett - The Discworld series (I love the witches and watch novels best) and Good Omens, which he wrote with Neil Gaimen especially. - I love the fact it's fantasy that doesn't take itself too seriously, and yet the political structure and character interaction is totally believable. Plus Death of Rats is awesome ;D - Oh, and the Unadulterated Cat is a good laugh for all cats...and thier owners.
- William Shatner - The Ashes of Eden trilogy, and the Avenger Trilogy, despite my previous experience, he's actually a really good writer. I suppose it helps he was Kirk - Note: these are Star Trek books, so a working knowledge of that universe is useful.
- Shirley Rousseau Murphy - The Catswold Portal - Basically a book about a girl from another dimension who comes to earth and has the ability to shift into a cat, and has to save her people from an evil queen. I must admit this book resonates with me as a therian, it always has...I'm also rather jealous ;D
- Tad Williams - I love Tailchasers Song (another cat-centric book...what a surprise ;D), and War of the Flowers. The latter for the most part because it shows fae for what they are, tricky and self-serving, and the political structure is awesome.
- Raymond E Feist - His books are awesome not just for the politics, but because you learn to love the characters despite their flaws (with one exception in my case), and it tears you to pieces when they die. Though to be fair to Feist, the series usually jump from generation to generation, so everyone gets older has kids, and if they're lucky they die of old age, and not a Pantathean stabbing them in the ribs. Be careful about reading the Serpent War books at night, because the Pantathians are scary bastards.
- Kristan Britain - Green Rider series. Again, good political structure, plus who doesn't like magical brooches, intelligent horses and everyone out to get you. It's also good that not everything works out nicely and Harry-Potter style for the protagonist.
- Holly Black - Modern Tales of Faerie. I love the Darkness in these books, and the realism of the fae and how they relate to the modern world and all it's iron.
- Ben Elton - The First Casualty (OMG, it's not Sci-Fi, or Fantasy **dies**). This book is set in WW1 from a conscientious objectors point of view, he's also a bobby so he gets dragged into the warzone to solve a murder (I know, the irony hurts). I like the way it doesn't glorify war, and it shows how crazy it can make people.
Honourable Mentions: - C.J. Cherryh's Chanur books (yet more cat-people, but this time they're aliens ;D), Jan Clark's Prodigy and Earth Herald, Marie Brennan's Midnight Never Come (another Fae book, this one set in Elizabethan times), Jasper Fforde's The Eyre Affair and related novels (It's an awesome concept, and I wouldn't mind a pet Dodo), and Tamora Pierce's books (yeash, the talking cat got me into her).
--- Woah...I forgot I had so many favourites xd .
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:56 pm
Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth Series is amazingHere they are in order: * Debt of Bones (199 cool by Terry Goodkind * 1 : Wizard's First Rule (1994) by Terry Goodkind * 2 : Stone of Tears (1995) by Terry Goodkind * 3 : Blood of the Fold (1996) by Terry Goodkind * 4 : Temple of the Winds (1997) by Terry Goodkind * 5 : Soul of the Fire (1999) by Terry Goodkind * 6 : Faith of the Fallen (2001) by Terry Goodkind * 7 : Pillars of Creation, the (2001) by Terry Goodkind * 8 : Naked Empire (2003) by Terry Goodkind * 9 : Chainfire (2005) by Terry Goodkind * 10 : Phantom (2006) by Terry Goodkind * 11 : Confessor (2007) by Terry Goodkind (copy-pasted from here)
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:00 pm
I'm not sure if these are worth reading for anyone over the age of 15 but I enjoyed them when I read them in high school:
These are all by Terry Brooks.
1. The Sword of Shannara
2. The Elfstones of Shannara
3. The Wishsong of Shannara
4. The Scions of Shannara
5. The Druid of Shannara
6.. The Elf Queen of Shannara
7.The Talismans of Shannara
8. The First Kign of Shannara
9 Ilse Witch
10. Antrax
11. Morgawr
12. Jarka Ruus
13. Tanequil
14. Straken (forthcoming)
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