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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:14 pm
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Hello everyone! I'm creating another team, and am trying to use my favorites (this will explain the lack of skill that this team has).
Anyways, I am missing a 6th pokemon! Now I'm not asking for someone to give me a pokemon set that would fit this team, but if you could mention something like "hey, this team could get torn apart by ice and electric, etc" I'd really really appreciate that. I was thinking of putting in a special sweeper... or maybe a Tank? I'm not sure. Anyways, the team:
Weavile (M) @ Focus Sash Ability: Pressure EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Fake Out - Taunt - Ice Punch - Night Slash
An anti-lead. Fake out + Taunt should shut down most SR/Spike users. I gave it dual stab because I'm not too crazy about counter.
Venusaur (M) @ Black Sludge Ability: Overgrow EVs: 252 HP/6 SAtk/252 SDef Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Sleep Powder - Leech Seed - Sludge Bomb - Energy Ball
I know SD + Power Whip is more popular with Venusaur, but I don't like Power Whip's accuracy, and Venusaur has always felt like a staller to me. Or special wall? Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, then proceed to wear down health with dual stab.
Blastoise (M) @ Leftovers Ability: Torrent EVs: 252 HP/252 Def Bold nature (+Def, -Atk) - Rapid Spin - Ice Beam - Surf - Yawn
I chose rapid spin Blastoise because I need a spinner in case Weavile can't do his job (for Typhlosion later on). Ice Beam for coverage, Surf for stab, Yawn to pseudo haze. I know there are much better spinners than Blastoise, but Blastoise was my first pokemon and favorite as a kid. That's taboo to admit to using pokemon only because you like them, but I'm sure at least one of you understands.
Lucario (M) @ Life Orb Ability: Inner Focus EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Swords Dance - Close Combat - Crunch - Extremespeed
SD Lucario, almost as overused as Scizor, but my favorite fighting type. I know everyone uses the SD set, but this has been the most reliable set I have run on Lucario yet. Switch in on immunity or resistance, SD, and prepare to wreck s**t.
Typhlosion (M) @ Choice Scarf Ability: Blaze EVs: 82 Atk/176 Spd/252 SAtk Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef) - Eruption - Fire Blast - Focus Punch - Earthquake
I don't agree with Typhlosions NU status, because of this set. I know he has a shallow movepool, but I've managed to dent a few teams with his scarfed eruption. Like I said earlier, I rely on Blastoise or Weavile to get rid of entry hazards. If they somehow don't, I use fire blast as a backup. Focus Punch for Blisseys that people like to switch in, and EQ for the coverage.
Any feedback is definitely appreciated. Sorry for the page stretch.
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:22 am
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You could use a counter to fighting types, ground types, a tank, a physical wall, or a counter to tanks (particularly toxic tanks). Weaville might work against some tanks with Taunt, but others that have decent offense ability, particularly some physical wallish types, could be able to wear it down despite it's great attack, speed, and STAB moves, and if they have both a set-up and a toxic physical waller, you'd probably be in trouble.
I'd suggest a flying type or levitation pokemon, perhaps a Chimeco, or a Bronzog, or a Togekiss. Togekiss and Chimeco can both learn heal bell, and I'm pretty sure they can all learn safeguard. Togekiss and Bronzog have great defenses, and Chimeco can make a surprisingly good tank and pseudo-passer with reflect and light screen, and all three are immune to ground, and at least neutral damage from fighting, have STAB attacks that are super effective against fighting, with Chimeco resistant to fighting type damage, and can all learn moves that are super-effective against fighting. Togekiss can also learn magical leaf, water pulse, or solarbeam for anti-ground coverage. Bronzog can also learn heal block, in order to prevent the opponent from using healing techniques on their tanks.
You might also want to consider teaching something an electric move for additional anti-flying coverage beyond Blastoise and Weaville's ice moves if you plan to try battling Uber or OU teams, due to all the flying legendaries, and the fact that Weaveille is primarily an anti-lead, and Blastoise is more of a tank in stats, and doesn't have the raw power to gun down some of the tougher legendaries, plus it gives additional anti-water coverage, and water is one of the most common types of pokemon, and you only really have Venusaur for that right now, and Venusaur as a grass type is also weak to ice moves, which are popular on water pokemon, in an environment where physical ice moves are starting to become useful, and Venusaur is more special defense focused.
I know Venusaur is sort of an anti-ground, but he isn't resistant like pure grass types because of poison type and lacks the physical defense to stand up to high powered STAB earthquakes well, or the offenses to always deal well with wallish ground types. He's a great pokemon, but not so much for his being appropriate to his typing for competitive battling, that is why I still recommend anti-ground and some kind of electric move placed in there, preferably on something with the offenses to really nail it, perhaps replace Extremespeed or Crunch with Thunderpunch on Lucario, allowing him to clobber popular flyers and waters better in exchange for either speed strikes or anti-psychic cruching.
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:43 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:26 pm
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[Philosophy In A Teacup] Crew
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:49 pm
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Man... Toko, I am lazy as hell with my EV training, and that analysis of yours makes me want to continue my training plans right now and then have a nice battle with someone good. Dear stars, post more, man.
Anyway, since Toko pretty much hit the nail on the head, I only have a small suggestion to make, which is more "If you want to" than "You probably really should"; But for Venu, in case you didn't want to deal with how finicky Sleep is, you could probably replace it with Poison Powder and go for double between damage (and Leech+Poison annoys the ******** out of people, which is half the battle).
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>That's taboo to admit to using pokemon only because you like them
Eff that noise, bro. I use Ninetales on my main team and according to Smogon the poor thing is NU. But she can give even legendaries a run for their money. Live by Karen's words, man, and if someone harasses you for it, tell them to suck it.
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:37 pm
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[Philosophy In A Teacup] Crew
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:16 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:02 pm
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[Philosophy In A Teacup] Crew
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:48 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:30 pm
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