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So, I'm sure you've heard something about this.
Recently there were soldiers in a helicopter who killed a number of civilians. I think this is absolutely disgusting, and horrifying.

The video of the attack was leaked, and it can be watched here.
I have to warn you, it's very disturbing.

Given the chance most folks are all evil beings, it is quite sad ura, never put anything past anyone. Though it would be nice to show the good things troops do too, not just the bad. Gives folks like me a bad name >.>

it looks to me like the soldiers were just acting on orders, and didn't mean to make this ******** up of a mistake. but i see alot of stupidity on both sides.

1.) what the hell was up with that eagerness to fire? were they that ******** bored? it wasn't as if they didn't have time to make a more thorough check on the equipment those Iraqis were carrying. that i incredible incompetence.

2.) the ********!? they brought a van there to rescue people, right after a vicious gunfire, with children!? that is ******** up and stupid! i am glad those kids didn't get killed.... i'm hoping they survived for certain, after all they could easily die of infections... especially considering they didn't get to have the better medical treatment.

anywho, looks like the superior officers realy wanted to cover this up. i don't blame them for that, i wouldn't want to admit that kind of serious blunder either. this is a great example of the horror of war.

i'm not anti-military, but i am against what the U.S. government uses it's military for. i support the troops, very much, you know that. but i do think that despite the varied opinions on the military that members of this guild have, the one's who are more active about using their voices tend to be the ones who are going to show more negative media about the military. i don't want to see this lead to any disputes in here. so i kindly ask that everyone try to understand both sides. thank you.

I don't know about that.
Culture and certain situations are ultimately really influential upon actions. Not everyone will behave in horrible ways, though.
I think that people have a great capacity for compassion and empathy. It's been demonstrated quite a lot.

You could show us? I know there are good things that the military does, and it'd be a relief from the usual bleakness I'm used to hearing about.

"Most himans are evil beings? I don't know about that. I don't think any one is evil...Some just, sad?"

no need to appologize, i can understand the feeling of constantly being bashed (or being part of a group that is bashed) constantly by people who rarely look at the other side of things. conflicts are everywhere, and there's no reason that anyone should have to just lay down on their backs and take it.

but yes, as long as it doesn't get out of hand, it's ok. but i just wanna make sure that no fights get started. we're a group together here, this guild is like a family. let's all try to get along. it's RoseSoul Tribe, as in a community.

I admit I didn't watch it(I'm not in the mood to see people die right now), but I would like to point out a very common mistake people make.

Soldiers are human.

Very often, surprisingly often, people make the mistake of judging people based on a title. I learned this while taking Criminal Justice classes. Here's a test for you.


Get a piece of paper and a pen/pencil or open a wordpad document. In thirty seconds, think of as many things as you can that come to your mind when you see the next two words listed.




Police.





Criminal.










Some of you may have forgotten some key words. Most people write these for "Police" : Officer, authority, leader, protector, pig, justice, injustice, cherry-tops, cops, cop, car, etc. For criminal they think: Injustice, wrong, immoral, failure, high school dropout, thief, murderer, etc.

What they forget for both are these: Father, mother, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, cousin, nephew, niece, husband, and wife.

We are all individuals. Yes, a U.S. soldier did something they should not have done, but I posted this because there are to many extremists out there who think "these guys did it, so they must all be bad." Well, I come from a military family and I can guarantee you none of us have done anything like that. It really hurts to hear people say that the entire military is evil or that we shouldn't have one, that they are all corrupt or blood-thirsty murderers. To many people lose respect for the men and women who risk their lives to help close minded fools like them just because some ignorant soldiers went against what they are supposed to do.

The military exists to help civilians. Our job is to protect the weak and defenseless, provide aid for those in need, save lives, and defend our country. Our job is not to go on a killing spree and I don't like the fact that when one group of soldiers do, all the soldiers, including the good and the entirely innocent(the ones who never even leave America), are judged for the actions of a disgraceful and shameful few.
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Edit: I didn't read the replies to the vid until after posting this, so this is not a reply to anyone, not even the person who posted this thread and information. I simply remembered all the times people mocked and taunted me when they found out I'm joining the National Guard and felt the need to vent a bit, so I did. At least I tried to be a little educational and posted some beneficial information during my rant rather than just rant to vent.