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But I have to tell you about this hilarious technique in the game. 'K, there's, like, 100 different skill shots, right? One of them is called the Mercy shot, and it gives you the highest skill shot score in the game (+100). It involves shooting some guy in the nuts, then blowing his head off. WTF? xd

I knew you were gonna be oversensitive about this.

I meant it was hilarious that the game designers (all men, btw) would come up with something like that. I mean, seriously, how do you develop an idea like that? Imagine the meeting in the brainstorming room: "Hey, let's have a special technique where the player (who's probably a guy) plays this guy who shoots this other guy in the nuts!" rofl I guess it went over well, or it wouldn't be in the game. Still, it's one of those WTF moments. Of course, these are probably the same guys who invented in-game tea-bagging, so maybe that explains it. xp

I'm sure there are lots of guys out there who will think doing it is funny. Personally, it's not the first option in my head when I'm playing a shooting game. I usually try for head or heart shots. I mean, you've got a gun, for Zeus' sake. xp When did "shoot to maim" become the goal? confused

Yes, you are being oversensitive, especially since I just explained why I wasn't laughing at the concept itself but the way it must have been created.

I've had the process explained to me. I get it; it's painful and sickening, and it's the most sensitive part on a guy's body. I get it. Again, I was not making light of the act itself. I get really tired of repeating myself in here.

Real feminists DO fight for total equality and defense of human rights as a whole and such. If there are people calling themselves feminists who do not, you can't judge the group as a whole by them. Also, I'm not sure what kind of point you think you're making anyway. 99% of guys don't give a "rat's a**" about women or equal rights or even human rights or how badly a woman can get hurt because she's naturally weaker and more sensitive than a man. I could say the same thing to you - you have no idea what it's like to be a girl. But I think that goes without saying on both sides. Anyway, why are YOU making such a big deal out of THIS? Aren't you the one who thinks rape games are okay? Rape is the most painful, sickening, and victimizing things that can be done to a woman. If a game about that is okay, a game with a single, unimportant, unstressed little piece like this should be okay.

I was just making fun of what seemed to me to be a pretty silly and weird game choice. I could've compared it to games where the goal is to "shoot" some girl's breasts off, literally (yes, this exists). I could've compared it to hunting games, which I'm also opposed to. I chose to make the tone of my first post lighter so that we could all have a good laugh at the stupidity of the gaming industry. Not every thread in this guild has to turn into a serious debate or angry rant. So STFU and laugh, or GTFO. Word.

Now who's being oversensitive.

Pardon me, I forgot that you take it personally when ever someone makes a negative comment about feminists. I know I can't judge an entire group by the actions of a few (not that that prevents them from doing it), but until they start using different names for levels of extremity, they are all just "feminists" (I can't separate them based on actions if they themselves don't)

Anyway, you're right. There are alot of people everywhere that don't care about the other gender enough. I'm just saying, if these people are truly about equality, why aren't they attacking both sides of the negative stereotypes, and not just the one.

For example, the company that had their rape game banned released one afterward where the female characters rape the male charaters in the game instead. But was that one attacked too, I think not.

The point I'm trying to make here, is no matter how much you defend the so called true "feminists", there's favoritism is everything they do. (regardless of whether it's intended or not)

And I'm sorry, but because of this issue, all feminists (at least in my mind) are now associated with "Hentai-haters" - and nothing can change that.
I'll believe otherwise the day I meet a "true" feminist that defends hentai.

You want me to make a line of separation among feminists based on extreme actions or not.
Fine, I'll do that. But you have to draw the line and show me where it is.



And that is where I stand.
I have said my 2 scents (more like 3, if you're counting posts), and I will now "STFU" as you have so "eloquently" put it. But I will NOT laugh.

And please don't say "word" at the end, that just sounds weird coming from you or me.



Sorry about the extended discussion thing, but no one had posted anyway when I made that first one. (despite other threads being above it already) And there's not alot of activity in the guild anyway.

Honestly, I don't have a very positive view of feminists myself, which is funny because being quite feminine myself and relating more to women on an emotional level you'd think I'd sympathize with them more. I'm seeing it more on a large scale now that feminists are becoming this creature that does not promote equality but rather is out for revenge against men.

This is all a childish game and both men and women need to grow the ******** up and realize WE are screwing EACH OTHER over with our (mostly) silly made up gender constructs.

The only thing that keeps me from hating all feminists is knowing that there are some that are in support of true equality. That's the problem though isn't it, that regardless of how you label yourself, there are so very few good human beings, period.

I realize feminists as a whole are getting stuck with a bad image because of the bad apples out there. I would like to ask you both, when you think of REAL feminists, to think of me. I'm not extreme, I promote equality in all things, and I would love for the world to be made of love and peace. In a way, each of us is a victim to the bad apple problem within each of our own groups.

Feminism was meant to be about liberty and freedom. For everyone. There should have been more cooperation from the entire world for this. It's something everyone wants for themselves. But people like to exclude others, regardless of the reason. And so it goes.

Dude, I honestly don't have any clue about how liberal you are or aren't. You have made a life of saying one thing to one person and something else to someone else. You act one way and then another. You believe one thing and then deny it. I don't know what you believe in; in fact, I strongly suspect you believe in nothing. But that's a different discussion.

I agree, it's not fair. But someone complained about the one, and no one complained about the other. Your words: the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You've taken advantage of that system your whole life.

I'm sure I don't see discrimination against men. There's so little of it that I'm surprised you've seen any of it. (Have you really?) All I know is that men get raises and promotions faster than women, and women are still embarrassed to report real rape. That's the world that I see.

Lol @ "man-haters." I could explain the psychology of that subgroup quite easily, but suffice it to say, they have their reasons. And they're not bad ones, just misguided and badly executed. What about the "woman-haters"? They exist too. But you'll notice they never get called that. People just say they have "anger issues" or they're "assertive and aggressive." In other words, manly. It's becoming okay again for men to despise women, while women are still being held to the sweetie-pie standard. But I could write a whole psychology paper on that phenomenon.

Hey, I keep having to repeat myself too. How about we both prefix things with the word "extreme" so that we know what we're talking about?

Lol @ "I want my games back." You didn't technically lose anything that was yours in the first place. And when something like this happens, it doesn't reverse itself. At least, not anytime soon. So you should just take a deep breath and let it go. You'd be happier and less Crocker-esque.

Word, cracker. xd

LOL

Thinking of you when I think of feminists is hard for me.
1: because feminists have been given a bad rep, and...
2: because your my sister.
I have difficulty associating you with those that have a bad rep.
More often then not, I forget that you are a feminist.

I guess just being a guy means I see discrimination against men easier.
Like being a woman means that you see discrimination against woman easier.
I guess it's just easier to sypathise with your own gender.

I think the term "woman-hater" should be used.
Hating someone because of something they have no control over, like being racist, is stupid.
One step down on the "extreme meter" is male shovanist pig (lol - I had to look up the spelling on that one) - Likewise there should be a term for female shovanist pig. There are people on both sides of every fence.

For example I know that as a whole, women are just as perverted as guys.
But guys get slammed harder for it. Or maybe it just seems that way because women hide it better.

"I want my games back" Yes, I said this - LOL
I know it won't get reversed anytime soon (if at all) but I still considder it a lose for the hentai gaming group. Especially sence the companies (the ones that make games that are actually graphically better as opposed to those stupid little flash games) had to completely redue their way of making some of their games. (I've already started seeing stuff like "watered down crap" in the hentai forrums when regarding to that same companies following games - keep in mind that those are the extremists, every group has them)

Crocker-esque?
LOL, that's funny.
Someone's been watching the fairly odd parents ^.^





Iakun: Then THX for being "just that good"
If I ever need a lawyer, can I call you? - LOL

THX for listing the discrimination against men that I couldn't think of at the moment. For the 3rd time now, you have explained things better then I could.





And I REALLY DOUBT that a girl getting hit in crotch hurts anywhere near as much as it does for a guy. I'm not a girl so I don't know for sure, but considdering how everythings positioned down there, I can say with about 99% certainty.
A girl (insulted or not) has a better chance of just laughing it off. But hit hard enough and a guy might have to be taken to the hospital. After all, there's a reason that "testical retrieval surgery" exists. For all our strenth, guys have one hell of a major weak-point. And why does it seem that women like to take advantage of it everytime they get the slitest of chances, even for the simplest and stupidest of things.

*sarcasm* Thanks alot god, you sux!

Sorry lol I thought c**t-punt is a pretty hilarious term. Even my sister laughs at it. I realize it's a bit over the top for a discussion in this guild but I just couldn't resist.

I don't really see this thing between the sexes changing anytime soon because people are always playing the "who has it worse" game. Just like gays and blacks and how they don't like any parallels drawn between both our hardships cuz "gays haven't had it as bad as blacks". Apparently it's not good enough to just have had it bad, period.

Oh well. Geez, after all the gender expectations we discuss, I still have to admit I'm attracted to some traits that pressure men I suppose: attractiveness, success, charm, intelligence, strength.