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Opinion on Anzu? |
Love |
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:56 pm
This particular thread is about Mazaki Anzu/Téa Gardner, one of Yuugi's best friends.
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 7:37 pm
I will post my opinions first in a form format, so you can either choose to copy and use the format, or make up your own.
Basic Opinion/What You Answered in the Poll: Like. Why You Hold That Opinion: [SPOILER WARNING] I really used to hate Anzu. Like honestly, she was one of my least-favorite anime characters back in Junior High or so. But that was more because I couldn't stand her dub counterpart, and back then all I watched was the dub. As I got into high school and started watching the Japanese version, I began to realize I needed to stop being so stubborn in my opinion. She was a different character to me now, so it was time to let go of my long-standing 'grudge' against Anzu and allow us to have a fresh start. It took a *long* time for me to get to the place I am now with Anzu. I still disliked her for quite some time, but I was at least able to let go of that hate I had for Téa. As I watched more of the series though and read more of the manga, I tried to keep an open mind, and I found she did manage to continue growing on me. It's gotten to the point where I can honestly say I like her as a character now. She still isn't anywhere near one of my favorites, but I do like her. She has some spunk, which is an automatic plus for me with most characters, especially female ones. This was especially evident in the early manga, and if she had stayed like she was in that first volume or so, she probably *would've* ended up being one of my favorite characters. But she just changed too much, and lost a lot of that edge as Takahashi Sensei refined his characters. However, Anzu still remains a supporting character that has a lot to offer. She's caring, intelligent, protective, and kind. She's probably the voice of reason within the group, which is always a trait I'm fond of. The way she acts motherly to the boys sometimes is really sweet to me. I've always been fond of women who are willing to protect men, yet she's also willing to be protective if she needs it. She's not so full of herself or stubborn that she'll refuse help if it's offered, but she'll also give help when someone else needs it. Overall, most of these qualities are good, but not enough to get me truly interested in the character. However, Anzu really has stood out to me a few times, and if she had more of those moments, I could see myself liking her a whole lot more. Some of those moments include: Standing up to Kaiba numerous times: When Kaiba beat both Jounouchi and Yuugi in Duelist Kingdom, everyone was too busy fawning over them to make sure they were okay to give a damn that Kaiba was walking off. Anzu, on the other hand, wouldn't let Kaiba leave. She defended her friends rather than just checking if they were okay. She explained their reasons for fighting, and berated Kaiba's cruelty. She not only tried to be there for her friends, but tried to help Kaiba himself with a bit of harsh lecturing. She even seemed to break through to him at least a little more than Yuugi ever could. He would go silent. I thought her words were at their most powerful at those times. Another similar time was when she wouldn't let Kaiba walk away in Noa's Virtual World. She doesn't force her friendship on him, but she does at least try to force her help when someone needs it. Getting the Kartush for Yami no Yuugi: Okay, not only was that Kartush useful as hell; it pretty much saved the world, but it was really thoughtful of her! Anzu was the only one in the group, including Yuugi, who considered that Yami no Yuugi could end up forgetting his name again once he recalled it. She didn't want him to go through the same trouble he already had for three thousand years, so took the simple consideration to buy him something to carve his name on. Trying to stop Yami no Yuugi from dueling Kaiba in the Battle City Finals: Okay, this part kind of pissed me off to no end. Jounouchi was dying, dying, and Yami no Yuugi decided it wasn't dueling anymore to regain his memories if he could lose his friends. A mature step at finally being less of a selfish p***k, in my opinion. However, then he got the vision of himself dueling Jounouchi in the future from the Tauk, and BAM! He's all raring to go again. He needed a necklace to solidify that Jounouchi would be okay (even though Kaiba had already proven the thing wasn't always right), and with that, he's like, "Oh! Well as long as Jounouchi's gonna live, I might as well finish this and get my memory back!" Yes, I know blah blah blah he was really dueling for Jounouchi and fighting with him and all that s**t. But seriously. Jounouchi was laying in a bed barely holding onto his life. A necklace told Yami no Yuugi that wouldn't last forever. He goes and plays a card game with Kaiba. Jounouchi could've died while he was playing that game, but instead of being there at his friend's side, he decided that as long as, at least for that moment, one of his friends was said not to die, then it didn't matter if he endangered anymore of them in the future, because dammit! If Jounouchi could survive an attack from Ra, then any of his friends should be able to! Anzu spoke up. She put Jounouchi's life over Yami no Yuugi's memories, even though she had been so intent on helping him retrieve them, and when Jounouchi did wake up and tried to go watch the duel, she was the only one who considered that maybe he should see a friggin' doctor! I mean, his heart did only stop for a minute, so it's kind of important. Everyone put fighting over the life of their friends, and Anzu was the only one who seemed to see common sense in this scenario. True, she wasn't able to stop either Yami no Yuugi or Jounouchi, but at least she tried, unlike the other characters. So yeah, although Anzu has an overall likable personality for me, and has done a few really kickass things that stood out for me, I still only like her. Part of it is that old grudge I had, part of it is that there just isn't enough more interesting parts to her or character development, and part of it is also that she really has done a few stupid things that really pissed me off. I mean, a lot of characters have managed to piss me off before, but not like this... like with her stupid carnival trip with Yuugi, and going to meet that guy at the back of her school, and trying to run after Yami no Yuugi and keep him from going to the after life... yeah, she's definitely managed to piss me off exceptionally well compared to other characters. Favorite Characters to Pair With: Kujaku Mai, Kawai Shizuka, Mutou Yuugi, Rebecca Hopkins, Honda Hiroto, Jounouchi Katsuya, Bakura Ryou, Kaiba Mokuba. Rating of Favoriteness: Thirty-ninth favorite.
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:20 pm
Rank: Too lazy to go check an actual count, but she's pretty far down there.
Basic Opinion/What You Answered in the Poll: Dislike
Why You Hold That Opinion: She's a character whom I have no passion about, I'm not neutral, the feelings are negative. But a character whom I hate (or something akin to that) would actually be much more important to me. Because then I'd have strong, invested feelings. She's just blah for me. I almost wanted to say mixed feelings, but no, there isn't anything that makes me like her, even things I could like about her.
I find her generic and dull. She's a good friend on a traits list, but definitely not my favorite type of friend. She's intrusive and thinks she knows what is best for people. She isn't exactly talented nor does she stand out in her own right. Her one claim to fame is a DDR success - which is nothing like actual dancing. You know almost nothing about her background, nothing to attach to her as an individual. She's a compilation of bossy friendship speeches. She's nice and means well - which is not interesting. She's annoying, so I dislike her. She's probably my least favorite female character in the series (in contention with Isis).
Favorite Characters to Pair With: Given that lack of passion and lack of regard, I have no interest in her as a paired character. Seto is probably the only one I really wouldn't want to see her with. I guess I'd be most amenable to seeing her with Yuugi, but really I just don't care. I also tend to avoid fanfiction and what not where her relationships play an important role.
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 11:25 am
Basic opinion/ answer on the poll: Mixed feelings. Reason: I don't dislike her, it's just kinda fun to see the girl sufer. That, and the friendship speeches get on your nerves after a while... stare Rating: I don't exactly rate them, It never cmae to mind, but she's not very high on the list... Favorite characters to pair with: Again, never actually thought of it.
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:30 pm
Yea I tend to not like characters prone to speeches. I think I'd have to feel invested to enjoy her suffering, but I certainly don't mind it. She doesn't seem to suffer very often though, maybe she'd be more likeable if she did...less...chipper.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:25 pm
@JK: Ah, that is something I forgot to list in traits I don't like on Anzu: Her bossy/intrusiveness. I still feel some of her best moments were when she showed those traits, but she over-does it and needs to learn to choose the best times to intrude. Haha, DDR success. XD
@Akasha: Funny, I tend to prefer seeing my favorite characters suffer over characters I don't care for. XD;; Sometimes I wonder what's wrong with me...
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:33 pm
I agree that these are probably some of the moments in which she is most interesting as a character. But as a person these are traits that I rarely allow in the people I'm closest too. There are a couple of exceptions, which I just can't help, they have other things about them I just love so much that I put up with the rest. I mean even when you are right you need to be able to respect someone's freedom to make their own personal choices, and yes, mistakes.
I'm the same way Kits, it's ok! I definitely care more about seeing the ones I love suffering. Probably because I do love them, it's a strong emotional connection/investment to watch them in peril. Whereas if someone I dislike dies who cares! At most I'll just like them suffering because I feel they deserve it for being awful and/or annoying, but it's nothing like the love and twisted enjoyment I get from watching my love in a collapsing elevator, or electrocuting himself, or dangling from the roof of a very tall building (hmm...haven't used that one in our rp yet...XD...j/k j/k I have no conscious intention of doing that...doesn't mean it won't happen though ninja ).
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:54 pm
Ah, yes, but that's also part of my point on those interesting moments with Anzu. She speaks up to give her opinion on the matter (like that Jounouchi should see a doctor before running off to watch Yuugi duel) but she never actually stops him. So while she is quite bossy, she ultimately does let characters make their own decisions/mistakes. Ahahaha, yes that's true. XD For me I think a death of a character I despise would be more pleasing, not for the suffering of the character, but because it means that character will no longer be annoying me with their presence. Hahahaha, poor Kaiba.
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:36 pm
Ah, see, but the few friends I have who are like that have the element that I may just be transposing onto her, but I still think it'd really be there. Especially if she had female friends. She's not an easy girl for girls to like, guys are oblivious so it doesn't matter. Anyhow it's the element of subtle pressure via guilt. So yes, she lets - because she has no power to do otherwise. But she does everything in her power to make it pretty darn clear that someone is wrong, that this is the right thing, that you are a bad person. I put up with it in certain people but it's still a quality I really dislike in some friends. The inability to filter, to bite your tongue and not just shove off your own feelings and opinions onto others bothers me. I don't like people making me feel guilty, feel like I'm wrong in my own opinions. So yes, while she physically allows mistakes/decisions (again because she has no other choice), she mentally and emotionally does not. She does play upon people - either in their current decisions or future actions. And I really dislike that. I get the mentality (again, there are people I love who are like that, probably why I don't hate her, because I won't allow myself to fully hate qualities that are in characters I love), but that doesn't mean I appreciate or am happy with it.
Oh well death I don't want in the characters I love. It'll be the ultimate rush for a bit, then it will just be a painful hole where I am consumed with missing them. And I might possibly just lose interest in a show after that if they were a big enough investment for me. I mean part of why I eventually fell out of Heroes (the NBC drama) is because it kept killing off all the characters I liked.
Alas, poor Kaiba indeed. sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:19 pm
Hmm, I see. Yeah, I don't think she does a very good job of bringing that guilt from the other characters, but I can see how she could. That quality's never really bothered me, I guess because it shows the person cares, and ultimately I won't change the decisions that are important enough for me to put up feeling guilty with. I do know one person who does that kind of thing, but she does it more for selfish reasons, like, "I don't want to go to the movies so I'm gonna make you out to be the bad guy for going even though I kind of just invited myself in the first place and I want to do something else." Anzu at least does it because she's genuinely concerned for and trying to help others. Yes, I admit to loving the rush of the death of a character you like, but then it's just sad. I can usually tolerate it if it's at the end of a series though, because at least I don't have to go the whole series without them. Near death is my favorite though. =D Gives you the rush without the permanent bye-bye.
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:30 pm
Well again they are idiot teenage males who lack emotional capacity - even more so as they are slightly flat characters. And yes, I get the caring factor, which is why I deal with my friends. Because I get the aim isn't too be cruel. It doesn't change that I don't appreciate people who act that way, and in characters it gets to be more over the top (and they don't have enough rounded humanity outside of that that real people do to compensate) and I just get annoyed. I know not everyone can be insightful, aware and push their own feelings aside for the benefit of others. It doesn't change the fact that this bothers me and I can't help but expect more.
Near death is my absolute favorite as well (or those random deaths where due to supernatural circumstances - like on say, Supernatural - the character manages to come back. Although "it was all a dream" is NOT ok), for that exact reason. At the end of the series it depends. Certain deaths I've found to be unnecessary. However if I see the death to be plot relevant and a fitting conclusion then yes I am fine with that as well.
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:23 pm
Ooh, YUU*GI*OU guys just got burned. So overall it's mostly just a matter of if showing you care that way is irritating to a person or not. It's not my favorite way for people to show concern, but I don't hate it or anything. Yes, though I'm a bit wary of the supernatural coming back, because Dragon Ball Z resurrected characters faster than you could keep track of. Growing up on that show, it was so normal for characters to die and come back (all you had to do was collect the Dragon Balls and they would give you a wish) that it got to the point where it was hardly even sad when characters did die. But as long as the supernatural resurrection is done sparingly and is a surprise (not expected right when the death occurs) then I'm good with it. And I also agree that killing off characters at the end just for the sake of killing characters is not cool; it should be necessary and well-done. Make the character have a purpose to the end.
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:29 pm
Eh, same old same old for them...^_~. I don't hate it but I do resent it, and so in a character whose not MY friend I do dislike them for it.
Exactly, and obviously the thrill was much bigger the first time it happened then in successive times, after that it became rather passe. It's just the one instance where I got a totally soul crushing death where I still got my character back (and at that time didn't know that was an option). And of course in SN - for the most part (there are some angelic loopholes, but even those have their cost) - someone usually has to sell their soul to bring the dead back. It usually ends up still being tragic and painful. Yay! xd
Make that character have a purpose in their end! But yes yes.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:38 am
Haha, yes, the thrill is important. Supernatural sounds like it's doing it right. I also find it interesting if like... the resurrected character is crippled from the previous death. Like if they were hit by a car, maybe they maintain some of the damage, and now have muscular problems or something.
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:30 pm
Maybe, depending, as long as if part of the reason I like them is their attractiveness they aren't unattractively crippled. Like one of the characters on SN still had the scar from the knife wound to the back that killed him, that was alright. Another character who was ripped out by angels actually lost his myriad of scars from life, but he did have the burnt hand impression of the angel that dragged him out, which was kinda interesting. It's also kind of intriguing if they come back as a different person. Not necessarily straight up evil, because I don't want them to be a different character. But just off, or indebted in some way. Deals with the devil are always fun.
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