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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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 Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:34 pm
I Pledge Allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the Truths written therein;
that all Men and Women were Created Equal, and have certain Unalienable Rights, among them Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
P.S~ I do NOT pledge allegiance to the Flag!
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:08 pm
That always threw me for a loop in HS. Why pledge to a flag? And why do it every day...like some sort of...brainwashing...ritual... gonk Fortunately, my first class was with an ex-hippie who couldn't care less about the pledge, and only made us say it when the principal was making his rounds. razz
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ScarletFrost Vice Captain
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:18 pm
i've always refused to pledge allegiance to the Flag, except since i've joined Student Senate... but i'm gonna replace it with this that i just made up, starting this week.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:05 am
I never really understood why until I sat in on like a billion boy scout retiring of a flag.
I heard each color means something... Ect.
But, the only thing I refuse to say is 'under god' because I do not really believe in him(her?)((It?))
But, now a days, my school doesn't even see if we know the pledge. We don't even say it any more~
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:22 am
ScarletFrost That always threw me for a loop in HS. Why pledge to a flag? And why do it every day...like some sort of...brainwashing...ritual... gonk Fortunately, my first class was with an ex-hippie who couldn't care less about the pledge, and only made us say it when the principal was making his rounds. razz That's exactly what it is. As I recall, it only became mandatory during the Cold War (which is also when the under God was added), to separate us from those damn Commies. [/socialist sarcasm is evident] I had the experience once (during Ye Olde Bush Era) of my junior high gym teacher telling me it was illegal under state law to not stand for the Pledge. I came back the next day with "Under what section of the RCW?" (Revised Code of Washington, AKA aforementioned state law) and he never bothered me again. : D And then once I got to highschool, I joked with people that I'd stand if Obama got elected. [/guess who was standing during announcements and not at all sorry] I don't say it, though.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:06 pm
Starcrossedsky ScarletFrost That always threw me for a loop in HS. Why pledge to a flag? And why do it every day...like some sort of...brainwashing...ritual... gonk Fortunately, my first class was with an ex-hippie who couldn't care less about the pledge, and only made us say it when the principal was making his rounds. razz That's exactly what it is. As I recall, it only became mandatory during the Cold War (which is also when the under God was added), to separate us from those damn Commies. [/socialist sarcasm is evident] I had the experience once (during Ye Olde Bush Era) of my junior high gym teacher telling me it was illegal under state law to not stand for the Pledge. I came back the next day with "Under what section of the RCW?" (Revised Code of Washington, AKA aforementioned state law) and he never bothered me again. : D And then once I got to highschool, I joked with people that I'd stand if Obama got elected. [/guess who was standing during announcements and not at all sorry] I don't say it, though. in fact, there was a Supreme Court Ruling at some point in History that said that forcing the Pledge in School was unconstitutional, and then this Lawyer who specialized in Freedom of Speech cases got put in jail numerous times for refusing to Pledge Allegiance to the Flag during Trials.
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:56 am
Ego vexillo unitorum statum Americae ac republica quam disignat fideletatum spondeo. Uni nation sub deo indivisibili c** libertatae atque ustitia omnibus.
The pledge in Latin =^_^=
I guess in this version you could say you're pledging allegiance to the symbol of the nation. I don't think it has "flag" anywhere in the translation.
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:48 pm
that's still the point though. o.o I don't pledge allegiance to the republic itself, I pledge allegiance to the founding principles, and the Constitution which holds them in writing. if the policies were to be unconstitutional (as some are), or if the Constitution is done away with, I won't take it laying down. I will fight for what I believe in, and that's my Mission.
that is why I'm going to run for Public Office, and why i'm going to be the Chief of a Anarcho-Socialist Commune.
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:13 pm
In Canada we sang the national anthem in elementary school. We were always scolded for not doing so. It's a similar idea, and they both kinda scare me. It does seem like a form of brainwashing.
I don't really care for nation states and patriotism isn't really something that I understand. I think it's kinda pointless to feel endeared to a fictionalized set of boundaries. Sure, I appreciate many of the ideas that are shared in the two countries (not all of them however), but even so it seems pretty fickle to me.
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:16 pm
Chieftain Twilight that's still the point though. o.o I don't pledge allegiance to the republic itself, I pledge allegiance to the founding principles, and the Constitution which holds them in writing. if the policies were to be unconstitutional (as some are), or if the Constitution is done away with, I won't take it laying down. I will fight for what I believe in, and that's my Mission. that is why I'm going to run for Public Office, and why i'm going to be the Chief of a Anarcho-Socialist Commune.
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:35 pm
Aakosir Chieftain Twilight that's still the point though. o.o I don't pledge allegiance to the republic itself, I pledge allegiance to the founding principles, and the Constitution which holds them in writing. if the policies were to be unconstitutional (as some are), or if the Constitution is done away with, I won't take it laying down. I will fight for what I believe in, and that's my Mission. that is why I'm going to run for Public Office, and why i'm going to be the Chief of a Anarcho-Socialist Commune. by itself, no... but that's teh same for every vote. overall, it does matter, because each person's vote is counted. the only way to get what we want is to talk about it, and vote. the majority get's their way. we can sway the majority by actively campaigning and educating.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:59 pm
I finally learned why! It was made for some kids to say at a carnival fair thing! At least that is what I have heard...
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:34 pm
Chieftain Twilight Aakosir Chieftain Twilight that's still the point though. o.o I don't pledge allegiance to the republic itself, I pledge allegiance to the founding principles, and the Constitution which holds them in writing. if the policies were to be unconstitutional (as some are), or if the Constitution is done away with, I won't take it laying down. I will fight for what I believe in, and that's my Mission. that is why I'm going to run for Public Office, and why i'm going to be the Chief of a Anarcho-Socialist Commune. by itself, no... but that's teh same for every vote. overall, it does matter, because each person's vote is counted. the only way to get what we want is to talk about it, and vote. the majority get's their way. we can sway the majority by actively campaigning and educating.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:43 pm
Aakosir Chieftain Twilight Aakosir Chieftain Twilight that's still the point though. o.o I don't pledge allegiance to the republic itself, I pledge allegiance to the founding principles, and the Constitution which holds them in writing. if the policies were to be unconstitutional (as some are), or if the Constitution is done away with, I won't take it laying down. I will fight for what I believe in, and that's my Mission. that is why I'm going to run for Public Office, and why i'm going to be the Chief of a Anarcho-Socialist Commune. by itself, no... but that's teh same for every vote. overall, it does matter, because each person's vote is counted. the only way to get what we want is to talk about it, and vote. the majority get's their way. we can sway the majority by actively campaigning and educating. I feel like I should have voted for others, now that some of the folks I voted for are in... I don't like the way they twisted their promises... however, most of their opponents were unfavourable as well... stressed
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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