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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:43 pm


so, the following is a post someone made starting a thread they titled "******** Life", along with my advice, and an argument between me and someone who decided that my advice was too harsh.

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Gallery Of Suicide
I know a lot of you will give me the most generic answers, saying 'Don't kill yourself!! So many other people have much worse lives!!' and yes, I know people have worse lives, but that doesn't mean I can't b***h and complain about my own without you getting up my a** about it.

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Okay, I'm Tiffany to start with. I've gone through quite a bit in my life, more or less than other people. I suffer from head pain that's totally irregular that I don't know if I should be concerned or be dialing 9-1-1 right now. I live in a semi-abusive household, with both indirect and direst abuse that's emotional, mental, and physical. I get remarks from my dad that are worse than 'oh my god my dad is like, so mean I hate him'. This is an actual hate. Just seeing his face and when he says something makes me want to tell him to shut the ******** up. My mom is better, but not the best. She doesn't agree with what I am and honestly, I could care less about them accepting me. My sister hits me often, whether it's a shove, punch, slap, claw, kick, to a rare but full blown 'Let's beat Tiffany' fest. My parents either a) don't believe me or b) don't want to believe me. Whichever, I don't care. She's claiming to move out in a few months, so it'd end the 10-12 year streak. And, yes, she's 2 years older than me, and she's been hitting me since I was about 6 or 7, when she was 8 or 9. I've gone through fail suicide attempts. I do alright in school, only 1 B since Highschool, and it was in an honors class so it was counted as an A still. Ever since that B I've been told I can't go to a good college, and even if I was smarter I still can't go to the college i had my heart set on. it was the only thing I looked forward to. My dad told me I can't go and he also told me a few weeks ago I'm not going to graduate so i threw all my graduation s**t away. I have liars as people who call themselves my friends but I wouldn't even call them a buddy. I honestly can't think of anything that makes me pretty, attractive, even decent. i dont' at all like the way I look. I can find something beautiful about everyone except myself. I may not have horrible acne but my skin isn't perfect. I don't have booming blue eyes, or anything that people notice. I don't have full lips that are gorgeous. I'm not fat but I'm not one that wears expensive clothes that make what features I do have look great. My hair isn't super long and nice, it's soft but it's midlength. I don't wear makeup. The one person I have to talk to chooses to play videogames over taking to me, and when we do talk, if I'm talking, his mind dies. If I'm quiet, he asks me to talk. All I've been wanting to do lately is cry and lay in bed and sleep. I haven't been wanting to eat. I've been trying hard to be strong and act like nothing's bothering me. I've been lying to him, every time he asks me if I'm okay, if my answer of no is honest, etc, all of which are lies. I've lost all desire for him to voice call me on MSN and on Friday & Saturday night, he'll always ask to stay up late, and that means he'll stay u until 2/3 a.m playing games while I sit there trying not to fall asleep just so he can call, I'll be silent, and it'd be bed time. He'll always play games and stuff when he'd normally be talking, and I always feel horrible, but I feel horrible doing something that takes away from our talk time. Like, tomorrow, I'm going to a party, it goes to like 10 or something, I feel horrible because I'll miss mutual shower time. He always acts a bit upset & sad, but I know he'll just play videogames to fill his time. He just told me late night. I dont' even want to talk to him. I just want to sleep. The things I look forward to now just seem to be whatever and I dont' want to do them. I know I won't make it to college, and I honestly don't want to be around anymore.

i know life is what you make it, but I tried to make it better and i honestly always comes to bite me in the a**. Whenever I do something for me, it isn't good for someone else. When I try to do something for someone else, they don't give a s**t.

Burn, I'm sorry for the childish typo filled bitching and moaning wall fo text, but I just needed someone to rant to.


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cops won't be able to do much, you're better off calling a Social Worker. and even then, it's easy for your folks to act nice and get away. this s**t is all too common.

and if anyone is telling you that you cant get into a good College with 5 As and an Honours B, they are lying to you. start looking into your Scholarship options right now, and at least one Community College or Junior College on the side. you CAN and WILL get into a University, within 2 to 4 years of graduating Highschool. hell, I did it, and I'm a high-school Drop-Out! I'm running on a GED!

as for your abuse issues, all I can say is, fight back. your sister beats you, and has since you were a baby? she's only 2 years your elder? you've gotta be toughened up by it, you can hold your own! elseways she might have killed you by now!

I'm being real here, not sugar-coated. I'm not gonna smother you with hugs and tears and sweet words. I'll hug you if you like, but I'm gonna be real. because what you need isn't just sympathy; you need advice. why else would you come here? cause evn if it were just for sympathy, you wouldn't get any from me or certain other folks here. we make that clear all the time. I don't like the weak, the quitters, or the snobby brats; and I know someone else here who also does not.

what's an example of what your dad says to you? I'll need to know if I'm to decide whether I find you credible or not.

regardless of all that, I hope you take my advice. it'll help you if you follow it. should solve the majority of your problems. if you submit to every obstacle in your life the world will defeat you. you have to be Strong.


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I don't like the weak, the quitters, or the snobby brats; and I know someone else here who also does not.


Well isn't that just great. rolleyes A+ for being a d**k right there.

To OP - Just look forward to moving out, that's what I did. It worked great.


thankyou. ^_^ I take Pride in knowing I'm made to ******** the Empty Holes in peoples' lives. over 100% will get me far in going for my Ph.D in my Major; Being a d**k. just call me Dr. d**k.

and no, I'm NOT sorry for what I said. I meant every gods-damned word of it.

Peace~ talk2hand
You're very hypocritical. I've seen your posts before, you're "Overcoming being weak" yourself. What a pity, a screw up telling someone he doesn't like her for being a screw up.

Refrence: ]http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=20149391&page=5


I'm not even denying that that's true! it is! what of it? at least I'm not ******** giving up! scream I actively seek to better myself, because like every other person in the world I'M NOT ******** PERFECT!! doesn't mean that I should be satisfied with myself, and neither should anybody ******** else! stressed

since when was medicority acceptable!? when the ******** did it become ok to be a whiney, weak, selfless, pathetic piece of s**t!? because it's never been ok to me, and never will be! evil

so how about instead of trying to judge all of us for being "too mean, you're meanie buttheads who use nasty mean words and make peopel cry", you actually post some realy ******** advice that will get someone off their damn feet, and ******** motivate them to make a positive change in their life!?

that is all. -.-
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:52 pm


I'm a little confused, which happens a lot with people on gaia, but I didn't find what you said to be that mean. I have seen so much worse on these types of sites. I don't know if I would have said about the whole, "what does your dad say to you" part but that doesn't mean I wouldn't have been thinking that. Apparently, Diseased Hooker (and anyone with that name you just can't take seriously anyway) is jumping the gun and just being a b***h. I'm guessing she likes the 'lets go with the sympathy route that way we can walk them right into another suicide attempt. What's wrong with giving someone the straight point of you need to better yourself?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:03 pm


he, actually, and he's always complaining about his relationship issues too, and how all the other gay guys think of him as a piece of meat, etcetera... meh... I never did take him seriously.

but yeh. just wanted to check with you guys to see if I realy do come across as mean as he says (and maybe also cause I wanted to rant about it, cause quite frankly I know I'm not in the wrong here ninja ).
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:05 pm


Oh, well my bad, the way that person was talking I thought it was a female. Anyway, I certainly don't think you are in the wrong.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:11 pm


:shrugs.:

anywho, the way I see it, good advice is any advice which motivates someone to better their situation. regardless of whether I'm mean or not when I give that kind of advice, I am not sorry to give it.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:20 pm


Lol. That dude thought what you wrote was mean? Damn. He needs to get out in the real world then. See how things are really run.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:23 pm


I KNOW, RIGHT!? xd I'd like to see him spend a DAY in my shoes! he'd end up getting shot. xp
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:29 pm


No. I don't think he could handle a minute in your shoes. He just needs more human to human interaction. Seriously, how sheltered is he? Yes, people deserve sympathy, but they also need a good dose of "Get off your a**". Especially if they have been in a situation for so damn long.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:31 pm


quite frankly, I dunno how often he gets out. but it doesn't seem like much. the only other kind of people he reminds me of are the video-game players who never leave their houses for anything other than console game tournies.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:29 am


sympathy is a dime a dozen, what people REALLY want is practical ADVICE. even if they don't follow it, the same routine of poor poor baby isn't gonna help a damn thing.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:34 pm


You do come off as strong sometimes. I believe I have gotten in to an argument with you, but that was a while ago. Now I know what you are like and that you tell the truth and what you see. You don't beat around the bush. I like people like that, but sometimes I do get defensive. So... speaking from personal experience I can see how they thought you were attacking them, but I read nothing offensive in that post.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:35 pm


shandrel
sympathy is a dime a dozen, what people REALLY want is practical ADVICE. even if they don't follow it, the same routine of poor poor baby isn't gonna help a damn thing.


Well a lot of it, now a days, is that they want attention. I am guilty of it, but I really try not to. And I can admit when I do it for attention, but it never is online. It's things I do offline... sweatdrop

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