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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:04 am
I've spent a decent amount of time researching the body on and off, along with researching random bits of things i was curious about, such as magic chi psi astral-projection healing meditation auras chakras, and i've been trying to understand them logically.

My own goal however is to reverse puberty to be immortal, i got this idea from the immortal jellyfish, it goes between premature and mature forms to keep healthy and it basically reverses aging when it reverts back to its younger form. Human children have alot more nueroplasticity and such as well, so i can see th esimilarities humans could have if they could reverse the aging cycle. Children are also much happier and learn much faster, they recover from injuries much faster as well.

I read once how excersize can turn some health-demoting genes off and health-promoting genes on, 500. Visualization however done in another study i've read, with several different groups, the group with 25% excersize 75% visualization got the most muscle improvement and/or improvement in performance(i forget which they measured) but i've also read other interesting studies done.

Point is visualization CAN change genes, at least turning on and off some genes. If you can control which genes turn on and off you could technically control your dna even more than that, oh and guess what, humans have an inactive version of the salamander's regenerate limb gene. They (scientists) think it was altered because of a virus or something.

I dont want to cut my arm off lol, but if i can reverse puberty i'll have the health benefits of being 5 again. Some frogs can reverse their gender, and jellyfish is basically only nerves, so im thinking, i can do this.

Issue is i dont know where to start and i'd like other peoples ideas or whatnot.

I should just simply start visualization. I mean visualizing is practically self explanatory, its like a deep relaxed daydream, the deeper the better i assume.

With magic people reach trance state as well, so thats another thing i could try is chanting+visualization til i reach trance. I've just not done visualization before.

I have daydreampt but compared to visualization this is pornography being compared to a sonnet, because i would have alot of impulsive daydreams, violent or sexual or whatnot.

Any comments appreciated.  
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:55 pm
-ahem- lol. ok beyond that. yes. vizulization is definitly a good place to start. and definitly no cutting off arms! even if you could reactivate that salamander gene, you'd have to breed back into humanity the ability to create materials like that after infancy. (i mean how after infancy you cant grow marrow or eyeball materials. you'd have to breed that ability in as well)
i have no idea about the trance thingy, but i do abide by the basic principles of NLP and hypnosis as I've been taught them so theoretically, using vizulization you could do a hell of a lot. speed up regenerative processes, change hair/eye/skin colour, change your weights. a lot really.  

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:30 pm
while a wonderfull idea it can have un intended draw back many thing in genetics what seems simple really is quite complex. if any thing start out small mess with pigment; i have fun messing with eye color.  
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:54 pm
If you want to get into visualization then you should take up Robert Bruce's "tactile imaging" techniques. It makes visualization a lot stronger when you feel it with your whole body rather than just "seeing" it in your mind's eye.  

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:02 am
josh of earth2
while a wonderfull idea it can have un intended draw back many thing in genetics what seems simple really is quite complex. if any thing start out small mess with pigment; i have fun messing with eye color.
What side effects do you notice from the eye color changes?  
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:05 am
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If you want to get into visualization then you should take up Robert Bruce's "tactile imaging" techniques. It makes visualization a lot stronger when you feel it with your whole body rather than just "seeing" it in your mind's eye.
I see how it'd be more powerful. Is it like recognizing sensations and using those? Is it good enough to imagine certain types of feelings to act as stimuli for the changes? From what you know?  

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:58 pm
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while a wonderfull idea it can have un intended draw back many thing in genetics what seems simple really is quite complex. if any thing start out small mess with pigment; i have fun messing with eye color.
What side effects do you notice from the eye color changes?
no, but my advise it study genetics be for you go thought with it messing with the gnomed can kill you  
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:22 pm
well i think with the right mindset it'd be able to prevent many or all mistakes such as that, like if i ask my heart what i want sort of while visualizing then i might not get any major issues, sort of, ya know? its not like im going like, hey i wonder what this one does *presses button* oh noooo my liver is failing XD lol, its more like, these are what i want improved heart hear me out, then the subconcious mind takes care of the specifics i'd think.

But i know theres a way to do it with more specificity, and i understand how that would have more risks, becoming unbalanced and such, but asking the subconcious mind to do it it'lll probably be more careful, well based on how i get the message accross.  

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:27 pm
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If you want to get into visualization then you should take up Robert Bruce's "tactile imaging" techniques. It makes visualization a lot stronger when you feel it with your whole body rather than just "seeing" it in your mind's eye.
I see how it'd be more powerful. Is it like recognizing sensations and using those? Is it good enough to imagine certain types of feelings to act as stimuli for the changes? From what you know?


As an example, let's say you want to visualize a white ball of energy moving up and down your arm. You can do this solely with your mind's eye but you can also incorporate physical sensation. You can brush your hand up and down your arm to get a sense for the feeling, then you can keep that sensation going with just "visualization". You're adding extra power to your visualization by incorporating more than one sense. This is something you sometimes find in magic manuals; incorporating as many senses as you can to increase the power of a working.

When you visualize with your mind you're seeing something as if it's actually happening. When you "visualize" with your body you're feeling something as if it's actually happening. If you combine those sensations then there's very little reason to think that it's not happening.

Using feelings or memories to bring about certain responses might have a place in this, but I'm not sure it's necessary for tactile imaging.  
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