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911child

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:37 am


Matthew 19:10-12
New International Version (NIV)
10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

from what ive read online, eunuchs means gay people
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:31 pm


1. A castrated man employed as a harem attendant or as a functionary in certain Asian courts.
2. A man or boy whose testes are nonfunctioning or have been removed.
3. Informal An ineffectual, powerless, or unmasculine man.
[Middle English eunuk, from Latin eunchus, from Greek eunoukhos : eun, bed + -okhos, keeping (from ekhein, to keep; see segh- in Indo-European roots).]
eunuch·ism n.
Word History: The word eunuch does not derive, as one might think, from the operation that produced a eunuch but rather from one of his functions. Eunuch goes back to the Greek word eunoukhos, "a castrated person employed to take charge of the women of a harem and act as chamberlain." The Greek word is derived from eun, "bed," and ekhein, "to keep." A eunuch, of course, was ideally suited to guard the bedchamber of women.

He is saying it is best not to marry. It is not a command however, just a suggestion. "The one who can accept this should accept it.” Those that live like eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven have decided to focus just on Jesus, and on the great commission. Eunuchs were used in the Harems to guard the women because they had no sexual desires due to what had been done to them. Jesus is not saying we should castrate ourselves here by the way.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:42 pm


Garland-Green
1. A castrated man employed as a harem attendant or as a functionary in certain Asian courts.
2. A man or boy whose testes are nonfunctioning or have been removed.
3. Informal An ineffectual, powerless, or unmasculine man.
[Middle English eunuk, from Latin eunchus, from Greek eunoukhos : eun, bed + -okhos, keeping (from ekhein, to keep; see segh- in Indo-European roots).]
eunuch·ism n.
Word History: The word eunuch does not derive, as one might think, from the operation that produced a eunuch but rather from one of his functions. Eunuch goes back to the Greek word eunoukhos, "a castrated person employed to take charge of the women of a harem and act as chamberlain." The Greek word is derived from eun, "bed," and ekhein, "to keep." A eunuch, of course, was ideally suited to guard the bedchamber of women.

He is saying it is best not to marry. It is not a command however, just a suggestion. "The one who can accept this should accept it.” Those that live like eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven have decided to focus just on Jesus, and on the great commission. Eunuchs were used in the Harems to guard the women because they had no sexual desires due to what had been done to them. Jesus is not saying we should castrate ourselves here by the way.

Basically that it is ok to marry but if you dont just accept it and focus on God? I hope that didnt come off rude. or what not. It may just be better to explain to me in the simplest of terms for me.
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:22 am


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1. A castrated man employed as a harem attendant or as a functionary in certain Asian courts.
2. A man or boy whose testes are nonfunctioning or have been removed.
3. Informal An ineffectual, powerless, or unmasculine man.
[Middle English eunuk, from Latin eunchus, from Greek eunoukhos : eun, bed + -okhos, keeping (from ekhein, to keep; see segh- in Indo-European roots).]
eunuch·ism n.
Word History: The word eunuch does not derive, as one might think, from the operation that produced a eunuch but rather from one of his functions. Eunuch goes back to the Greek word eunoukhos, "a castrated person employed to take charge of the women of a harem and act as chamberlain." The Greek word is derived from eun, "bed," and ekhein, "to keep." A eunuch, of course, was ideally suited to guard the bedchamber of women.

He is saying it is best not to marry. It is not a command however, just a suggestion. "The one who can accept this should accept it.” Those that live like eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven have decided to focus just on Jesus, and on the great commission. Eunuchs were used in the Harems to guard the women because they had no sexual desires due to what had been done to them. Jesus is not saying we should castrate ourselves here by the way.

Basically that it is ok to marry but if you dont just accept it and focus on God? I hope that didnt come off rude. or what not. It may just be better to explain to me in the simplest of terms for me.

Yep. You are right. =) Not at all. If we chose to not marry, which Jesus said is the best, we are supposed to live like eunuchs. So you are right.

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:29 am


It is worth noting that Jesus said this about marriage as a response to questions about divorce.

Matthew 19
3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:52 am


Thanks ^_^ and sexual immorality is basically cheating on your spouse right

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:25 pm


911child
Thanks ^_^ and sexual immorality is basically cheating on your spouse right
In this context =)
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:59 pm


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911child
Thanks ^_^ and sexual immorality is basically cheating on your spouse right
In this context =)
heh thanks again ^_^

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