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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:20 am
Okay...
So I didn't see a topic just regarding kanji, mainly topics pertaining specific things about it...

So, I was thinking of posting kanji to help us all learn...

PROTIP: learn hiragana and katakana first, get good with them. Learn kanji as soon and as much as you can, at least recognize it's meaning...

Helpful sites:

http://ejje.weblio.jp/
^type in the Japanese and it will give you the English

http://jisho.org/
^helps with kanji

Example format:

Word: 音楽 (Ongaku)
noun
English: music
Kanji: 音楽
Hiragana: おんがく
Romaji: Ongaku
Pronoucation: ohn-gah-koo
This is the Japanese word for music.
What the Japanese kanji says:
音: sound, noise
楽: comfort, ease, music
How it’s used:
音楽はかっこいいです。(おんがくはかっこいいです。Ongakuwa kakkoii desu.)
Ohn-gah-koo-wah-kah-(pause)-koyyyy-day-ss.
(*desu can be said as day-sue.)
Music is cool.
Katakana:
ミュージック (Myuujikku)
Meeew-jee (pause) koo
Music  
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:11 am
Pretty sure かっこいい is only used for looks, mate. すごい could work in its place.

Also, not sure how you say です, but I usually explain it as Jess with a D (also you should probably mention that it being said as 'deSU' doesn't happen in normal conversation often).

For かっこいい: maybe instead of 'koyyy' you could go 'koh (with the 'o' sound in 'shot') - eee (the 'e' sound in 'eek')' instead. 'koyyy' just sounds like koi fish to me.  

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:36 pm
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Pretty sure かっこいい is only used for looks, mate. すごい could work in its place.

Also, not sure how you say です, but I usually explain it as Jess with a D (also you should probably mention that it being said as 'deSU' doesn't happen in normal conversation often).

For かっこいい: maybe instead of 'koyyy' you could go 'koh (with the 'o' sound in 'shot') - eee (the 'e' sound in 'eek')' instead. 'koyyy' just sounds like koi fish to me.


かっこいい means fashionable or cool

"describes something that is cool, looks awesome, or sounds cool. So, if you wanted to describe a band that sounds cool or say someone is cool, you would use this word"
^ from: http://learn-japanese.wonderhowto.com/how-to/use-japanese-slang-kakkoii-cool-294816/

My Japanese teacher taught me that すごい is more like amazing or incredible...

です can be said as de-ss or de-su. The former is most common, but both are correct. In fact, it's actually a dilect thing. In some parts of Japan, as told by my Japanese teacher, they say です with a very strong す....

かっこいい: I think it can be either way: kah-koyyy or kah-koh-iiii
Google Translate says it as kah-koy-ii

I'm not too sure... I think 'kah-kkoh-iiii' and 'kah-kkoy-ii' is best tho...  
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:43 pm
Next kanji:

Word: 楽しい (Tanoshii)
Adj (i adj)
English: enjoyable or fun (as something is fun…)
Kanji: 楽しい
Hiragana: たのしい
Romaji: tanoshii
Pronoucation: tah-noh-sheeeee (or tah-noh-shee-ee)
This is the Japanese word for fun.
What the Japanese kanji says:
楽: comfort, ease, music
How it’s used:
パーティーは楽しかったです。(パーティーはたのしかったです。Paatiiwa tanoshikatta desu.)
Paaaaah-teeeee-wah-tah-noh-shee-kah-ttah-day-ss.
(*desu can be said as day-sue.)
The party was fun.  

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:38 pm
Kaleidoscope_Prism
かっこいい means fashionable or cool

"describes something that is cool, looks awesome, or sounds cool. So, if you wanted to describe a band that sounds cool or say someone is cool, you would use this word"
^ from: http://learn-japanese.wonderhowto.com/how-to/use-japanese-slang-kakkoii-cool-294816/

My Japanese teacher taught me that すごい is more like amazing or incredible...

です can be said as de-ss or de-su. The former is most common, but both are correct. In fact, it's actually a dilect thing. In some parts of Japan, as told by my Japanese teacher, they say です with a very strong す....

かっこいい: I think it can be either way: kah-koyyy or kah-koh-iiii
Google Translate says it as kah-koy-ii

I'm not too sure... I think 'kah-kkoh-iiii' and 'kah-kkoy-ii' is best tho...
I've only ever heard かっこいい used for looks. None of the native speakers I've spoken to have ever used it for saying something like 'music is cool', it's always been more 'oh, that guy's so cool/good looking!'.

For です I was objecting more to 'day', though you may pronounce it differently from where you're from, 'day' has more of an 'a' sound than a 'de' sound to me.  
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:39 pm
You can use かっこいい for music. Everyone says LiSA's song's are かっこいい. Or like UVERworldの曲かっこいいー!!!!



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かっこいい means fashionable or cool

"describes something that is cool, looks awesome, or sounds cool. So, if you wanted to describe a band that sounds cool or say someone is cool, you would use this word"
^ from: http://learn-japanese.wonderhowto.com/how-to/use-japanese-slang-kakkoii-cool-294816/

My Japanese teacher taught me that すごい is more like amazing or incredible...

です can be said as de-ss or de-su. The former is most common, but both are correct. In fact, it's actually a dilect thing. In some parts of Japan, as told by my Japanese teacher, they say です with a very strong す....

かっこいい: I think it can be either way: kah-koyyy or kah-koh-iiii
Google Translate says it as kah-koy-ii

I'm not too sure... I think 'kah-kkoh-iiii' and 'kah-kkoy-ii' is best tho...
I've only ever heard かっこいい used for looks. None of the native speakers I've spoken to have ever used it for saying something like 'music is cool', it's always been more 'oh, that guy's so cool/good looking!'.

For です I was objecting more to 'day', though you may pronounce it differently from where you're from, 'day' has more of an 'a' sound than a 'de' sound to me.
 

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:48 pm
Too much info O_0!!!!!...in the websites given Kaleidoscope the website http://ejje.weblio.jp/ you didn't specify what is supposed to be typed in Japanese. Im super beginner in Japanese and some one had advised me to learn the Japanese alphabet before I learn the words. Is there a web site I can practice them from first to last like how Japanese would learn it in skool?  
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:53 pm
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Too much info O_0!!!!!...in the websites given Kaleidoscope the website http://ejje.weblio.jp/ you didn't specify what is supposed to be typed in Japanese. Im super beginner in Japanese and some one had advised me to learn the Japanese alphabet before I learn the words. Is there a web site I can practice them from first to last like how Japanese would learn it in skool?


Sorry if it was alittle much... Kanji can be...


http://ejje.weblio.jp/
^type in the Japanese and it will give you the English
This is mainly for words, either hiragana and/or kanji.

http://jisho.org/
^helps with kanji
Also for words, but more for kanji.



http://www.realkana.com/
^This helps with hiragana and katakana.

Hiragana chart:
http://www.textfugu.com/resources/hiragana-chart/

Katakana chart:
http://www.textfugu.com/cheat-sheets/katakana-chart/

^^^Is this what you're meaning? Hiragana and Katakana? By learning words tho, you do learn the kana (hiragana and katakana).

Hiragana is the main formal of writing for Japanese, besides Kanji.
Katakana is mainly used for foreign words. Some words, like bread, for example, aren't native to the Japanese lanaguage. Therefore, the Japanese borrow words from other countries. The bread is "pan", which comes from Portugal. Since it isn't a native Japanese word, it is written in katakana.
Kanji is to help figure out which word someone is using. Like in English, there are homophones, and words that sound the same.

EG
effect and affect; compliment and complement
Because there are 来ます and 着ます; both are kimasu in Romaji, the first one is the masu verb for "come" and the latter, the masu verb for "wear (as in clothes)"
and 糞 and 空想: kuso (bullsh*t) and kuusou (fantasy or illusion)

Kanji can also be read in different ways.

EG
this kanji: 人
can be read as "hito" which means people or be read as "Jin" which is the suffix for nationality as in Amerika-jin (American).


**Sorry for lost post.  

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:54 pm
New Kanji!

Word: 蝶 (Chou)

Noun

English: a butterfly or butterflies

Kanji: 蝶

Hiragana: ちょう

Romaji: Chou

Pronoucation: Choooo

This is the Japanese word for a butterfly or butterflies.

What the Japanese kanji says:

蝶: Japanese kanji for butterfly.

How it’s used:

私は蝶が好きです。(わたしはちょうがすきです。Watashiwa chouga sukidesu.)

Wah-tah-shee-wah-choooo-gah-sue-kee-day-ss.

(*desu can be said as day-sue.)

I like butterfly/butterflies.  
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:35 pm
Found a good website to learn Haragana and Katagana its
http://www.jlpt-practice.com/beta/Lesson/Basic/Hiragana.aspx

ninja  

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:35 pm
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Found a good website to learn Haragana and Katagana its
http://www.jlpt-practice.com/beta/Lesson/Basic/Hiragana.aspx

ninja


Good job. That site seems really good. There are quite alot of good sites to learn the basic Japanes kana.

(It's hiragana and katakana, btw.)

These are also good sites:

http://www.realkana.com/
^This helps with hiragana and katakana.

Hiragana chart:
http://www.textfugu.com/resources/hiragana-chart/

Katakana chart:
http://www.textfugu.com/cheat-sheets/katakana-chart/

(Why is there a ninja emoji? We are all ninjas! ninja )  
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:45 pm
Word: 寂しい (Sabishii)

Adj (i adj)

English: Lonely

Kanji: 寂しい

Hiragana: さびしい

Romaji: Sabishii

Pronoucation: sah-bee-sheeee

This is the Japanese word for lonely.

What the Japanese kanji says:

寂: mature, loneliness, mellow

How it’s used:

このごろ、皆さんはとても寂しいです。(このごろ、みなさんはとてもさびしいです。Konogoro, Minasanwa totemo sabishii desu.)

Koh-noh-goh-roh, mee-nah-sahn-wah-toh-tay-moh-sah-bee-sheeee-day-ss.

(*desu can be either said as day-ss or day-sue.)

These days, Everyone is very lonely.  

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