How One Cancer Patient is Using Her Illness

[Bible guild Mule]

How One Cancer Patient is Using Her Illness to Show Others Faith  

[real eyes realize]

Something the author said brought to mind a difficult verse I meditated on yesterday:

Would the following...

Quote:

[...]Brittany chose November 1 as the day she would end her own life,
with the help of a doctor. And I’m sad to say she carried through with her
plans—despite the enormous outpouring of love and prayers from people
across the country who urged her to change her mind.

...be an example of the types of people we don't pray for? In light of:

1 John 5:16-17 (KJV)

16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask,
and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto
death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

                                          question

At first, I was just considering sins that merit a death penalty and that we
shouldn't pray about those believers choosing to engage in those types of
sins. But if a person has planned to kill themselves, should we petition God
about it? If they're a believer, no? Non-believer, yes?

edit: that's not to say I wouldn't try to change their mind, but as far as prayer goes...?  

[Bible guild Mule]

real eyes realize

Something the author said brought to mind a difficult verse I meditated on yesterday:

Would the following...

Quote:

[...]Brittany chose November 1 as the day she would end her own life,
with the help of a doctor. And I’m sad to say she carried through with her
plans—despite the enormous outpouring of love and prayers from people
across the country who urged her to change her mind.

...be an example of the types of people we don't pray for? In light of:

1 John 5:16-17 (KJV)

16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask,
and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto
death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

                                          question

At first, I was just considering sins that merit a death penalty and that we
shouldn't pray about those believers choosing to engage in those types of
sins. But if a person has planned to kill themselves, should we petition God
about it? If they're a believer, no? Non-believer, yes?

edit: that's not to say I wouldn't try to change their mind, but as far as prayer goes...?

From what I gather that particular sin is:

Mark 3:29
but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin."

I have troubles thinking why we should not be praying for anyone, since God wants all to be saved.

1 Timothy 2:1
I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people--

We should pray for all people, regardless of what we think their condition is (?)

- Garland  

[real eyes realize]

Bible guild Mule

real eyes realize

Something the author said brought to mind a difficult verse I meditated on yesterday:

Would the following...

Quote:

[...]Brittany chose November 1 as the day she would end her own life,
with the help of a doctor. And I’m sad to say she carried through with her
plans—despite the enormous outpouring of love and prayers from people
across the country who urged her to change her mind.

...be an example of the types of people we don't pray for? In light of:

1 John 5:16-17 (KJV)

16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask,
and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto
death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

                                          question

At first, I was just considering sins that merit a death penalty and that we
shouldn't pray about those believers choosing to engage in those types of
sins. But if a person has planned to kill themselves, should we petition God
about it? If they're a believer, no? Non-believer, yes?

edit: that's not to say I wouldn't try to change their mind, but as far as prayer goes...?

From what I gather that particular sin is:

Mark 3:29
but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin."

I have troubles thinking why we should not be praying for anyone, since God wants all to be saved.

1 Timothy 2:1
I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people--

We should pray for all people, regardless of what we think their condition is (?)

- Garland

lol at your question mark :P

But that's precisely why I ask: in the past, YHWH has been known to prohibit prayer over certain people (his own people):

Jeremiah 11:14-17 (KJV)

14 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble.

15 What hath my beloved to do in mine house, seeing she hath wrought lewdness with many, and the holy flesh is passed from thee? when thou doest evil, then thou rejoicest.

16 The Lord called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.

17 For the Lord of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.

In this case, the sin being idolatry a.k.a. adultery against God, cheating on YHWH with Baal. They weren't faithful to the covenant (so God stayed faithful by sending punishment; those were the conditions of the covenant: cheat on me with another "god", get cursed/punished). Though yeah, I guess this is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit because they weren't in any doubt about who the true God is. At that point, it was obstinate rebellion against God after already knowing him.

I think God just answered my question. emotion_awesome

If Brittany had known God, truly, and still went ahead with it, in an obstinate fashion, despite knowing it to be wrong, there should be no petition made for her. Her eyes aren't deceived; in that case, she would be acting in full out rebellion. I guess I hesitated because it sounded a bit harsh. But it's consistent.