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Pyon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:34 pm


I have tried over and over again to draw, but i think dont have a knack for it..So I'm just wondering if there is any secret to it.. What is it that makes people draw so well? xp

Oh! Anyone able and willing to give me tips/techniques on drawing Manga?? I know this isn't exactly Graphic Design but I think one shouldnt be too restricted to graphic designing only right..?? 3nodding
By the way, what is "Line Art" ??!

Anyway you can also post any of your recent drawings here for me to ogle! ( and go green with envy crying ).. Lucky Drawing People!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:14 am


Graphic designers sometimes have to work closely with illustrators, and use a lot of the same software and basic techniques, so feel free to discuss anything about drawing and artwork in the guild!

The first issue of the Guild E-zine focussed on illustration and graphics techniques, and included some figure drawing and colouring tutorials and tips, so you might find some useful stuff there.

As for a secret to drawing... I know its not the answer you want to here, and its gonna sound cliche, but the only 'secret' to drawing well is to keep practicing and keep an open mind. It's true that some people have more talent than others, but even people with talent have to practice to make the most of it. And that doesn't mean people who don't have talent can't be good either (like Rock Lee! Gooo Lee! xd ).

Even if you're really keen on manga/anime style drawing, I advise you to learn realistic anatomy first. Anime style bodies are distortions of realistic bodies, and if you know the realistic way first your anime art will be more believable.

Hrmmm what else...

Ah, there's a bit of debate about how helpful copying is... personally I don't think copying an anime picture completely is helpful at all in the end. Note another artists style by all means, but copying a complete picture is pointless. If you have trouble drawing realistic poses, draw from photos or a real model if possible. And if you do copy something, just use it for your own reference and don't post it anywhere online, even if you say who the original was by.

So don't give up and practice like crazy! I've been drawing seriously about four years, and have filled up a few sketchbooks, and still have heeeeeaps to learn!

Here's some art from me, sort of a 'making of' of one of my recent pics:
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Chisa
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Pyon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:29 am


Chisa

Here's some art from me, sort of a 'making of' of one of my recent pics:
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Wow!! :Envy:!
Hmm.. k I'll do some research on the human anatomy.. xp
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:29 am


personaly, I learned by teaching my hands the shapes. When I was in middle school I adored "Sailor Moon" and I would trace the pictures, which is how I learned the shapes and spacing of the face and upper body. I have also used the "look and Redraw" idea, by looking at one image and re drawing it myself. I think that for a beginer, copying in some sense is the best way to start with a strange or new art style.

I think that there is alot to be learned by reproducing the work of proffessional artists. (many people go to the large art museams every day to make copies of grand master's work). however, it is only practice and a tool to learn, you can't say it's your own.

As chisa said learning the anatomy is a good, I would say it's a must! I simply have seen that it sometimes helps to get the basic style down first. ^_^

anyways, I though some how to draw manga refrence might help you as well:
http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/tutorial/tutorial.html
http://members.tripod.com/~incomming/index.html <-- popups and typo's, but good referance images...


and this.. I went to tokyopop.com and it would seemt hey have their own manag magizine and they are either giving it away, or giving a few issues free... you can sign up here: http://www.tokyopop.com/news/surveys/survey.php?surveyid=1037

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Pyon

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:24 pm


Thanks Raine!! Hmmm btw, does anyone know how to differentiate tones and lightings.. I totally have no eye for it.. Its like my eyes have a world of its own and sees everything in one solid colour.

Ugh.. I should have paid more attention in art lessons back in school! gonk
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:54 pm


I want to learn how to draw manga as well! ^-^

Rika-Rutei


sakuradragn

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:28 pm


Something that helped me was observing way the characters look in manga. Also, observing other peoples art that you like would help. After you've observed, put the parts that you like together and develope your own style... which will always change as you get better.
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 4:19 pm


Besides what other people have already noted here...

Invest in good tools. ESPECIALLY if you're going to color traditionally. A $5 set of Wal-Mart markers are NOT the tools to use if you want your art to be as good as possible. In that same vein, don't try to improvise if you are just beginning to learn to color traditionally. If you don't have the shade you're looking for, go out and get it -- this is especially true for skin colors, as most marker sets don't include them for some weird reason.

On the other hand, don't break the bank for your art, especially if it's just going to be a hobby. This stuff can get really expensive really fast, so watch what you buy. I'd suggest you start with a good mechanical pencil from, say, OfficeMax, preferably with replacable lead and eraser(yes, I have bought mechanical pencils where the lead couldn't be replaced. You can imagine how annoyed I was. razz ), a good eraser of any type(make sure it won't smudge your pencil smile ), and possibly a good Micron or other quality pen. Be sure to research via Google all the tools and their uses. You don't want to be buying a pen that is way too thick for the kind of inking you do. razz

Get realisitic anatomical references. An anatomy book is good, and if you are squeamish about human anatomy there are family appropriate books out there. You can also get posable models -- I have not had them but I hear they are nice.

Please, please, please do NOT start out with anime. It will cost you in the long run, as it did me(I have been drawing on and off for many years and have basically had to start all over because I hit a glass ceiling in my art). Start with realism, and THEN develop your OWN style. I don't buy manga so I can see anime quality artwork that doesn't vary in style from anything else I've seen. Remember, you probably aren't going to be actually animating a show any time soon, so you don't want your art to look like it, since there is a big quality difference between anime and manga. 3nodding

As far as copying, I wouldn't recommend the kind of copying most people do -- taking a full, completed picture and eyeballing or even tracing it, and end up with a poor quality, warped version of usually an anime picture(which is poor quality to begin with). Instead, try taking quick, small, anatomically correct, naked(rather, "blank" which is naked with certain R rated parts not drawn in) sketches(I have several in my anatomy book that I use), eyeballing THEM, and building a character on top of them. That way, you get to practice good anatomy AND all the other good things that make up drawing, like clothes, hair, facial features, etc. 3nodding

Finally, use references. A LOT of them. I rarely draw anything without my computer, an anatomy book, or a live model. It can get tedious, but as you get more practice you will be able to draw without having to look up something everyone 5 seconds, and you'll have a solid foundation to have very nice art to boot. smile

EDIT: Oh, one other thing. As you start to develop your own style, remember you don't have to conform to ANYTHING, not even a style you made up. Vary things, try drawing things more realistic or less realistic, etc. Getting stuck in a style rut is one of the worst things I think someone can do, as it prevents them from changing, varying or ever getting better. Of course, you CAN have a favorite style you do most of the time, as long as you are enjoying doing art and mix it up from time to time. wink

EDIT2: By the way, I know you said 'manga' and not 'anime' but I wanted to make sure you knew the difference. Most people want to draw anime style because that is what they seen on Cartoon Network, but the fact is that anime is poor quality artwork compared to manga. domokun

Also, here is one of my most recent pictures. I've been coloring it off and on for many months now.

Kitsuta

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