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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:03 am
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The underground, not the sandwiches. D:
So, hi. I'm addicted to finding magickal significance out of strange yet everyday things, and as such, I'm recently started thinking about building up a magickal system based on the subway, of all things. I'm pretty sure my fascination with the underground (the Glasgow Subway by the way, though I'd heart to go around on the London Underground someday <3) came from my dad's side of the family, since all the men there seem terminally fascinated with trains.
But yes'm, since I'm on the subway practically every day, and since that feeling of awe at it has never ceased, I want to find any and all existing material relating the Subway to Magick and vice versa. Anything. Everything. I'm talking concepts, ideas, random metaphors, movies and books, interesting parallels, experiences, gematric correspondances, info that could be put to use in magick -- anything like that at all. I realise the response to this will be pretty limited, but if I end up getting something going here, you'll have something nifty packed and ready for the next time you're on the subway. |D
HALP PLS.
Folks over in the Real Magick guild or the Magick and Psionics Research Institute and Learning Centre (both of which I urge serious practitioners to join) will have seen this post before, but this is where I'll be collecting all my information together. For the nonce, I'd like everyone to give me some ideas as to what I could include in this system. Take a gander at the replies I've gathered so far too, if you wish.
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:03 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:01 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:43 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:55 pm
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This may or may not be related, but I view Magick as a kind of shortcut to something you could do in a mundane fashion.
So, metaphorically speaking, Magick is like a subway.
Sure, you could get to your destination the old-fashioned way, above ground, going through all kinds of streets, making a bunch of turns, going through bad neighborhoods, and you could still get there. It would just take way longer. A subway, however, is basically a straight shot to your destination..
Magick is like this. Say, you want to curse someone. You could just go seek them out and beat them to a bloody pulp, and probably do more damage than a curse can, but it's a lot more difficult to accomplish to a practiced magician. Or you could cut corners, and throw a curse their way.
Sorry if this makes no sense.
EDIT: Also, I always thought the maps of the subways look kind of like complex Sigils.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:16 pm
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Luciferin Bandit This may or may not be related, but I view Magick as a kind of shortcut to something you could do in a mundane fashion. So, metaphorically speaking, Magick is like a subway. Sure, you could get to your destination the old-fashioned way, above ground, going through all kinds of streets, making a bunch of turns, going through bad neighborhoods, and you could still get there. It would just take way longer. A subway, however, is basically a straight shot to your destination.. Magick is like this. Say, you want to curse someone. You could just go seek them out and beat them to a bloody pulp, and probably do more damage than a curse can, but it's a lot more difficult to accomplish to a practiced magician. Or you could cut corners, and throw a curse their way. Sorry if this makes no sense. EDIT: Also, I always thought the maps of the subways look kind of like complex Sigils.
I tend to think of magic in the opposite way. I'm not really much of a magician though.
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:28 am
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Obscurus Luciferin Bandit This may or may not be related, but I view Magick as a kind of shortcut to something you could do in a mundane fashion. So, metaphorically speaking, Magick is like a subway. Sure, you could get to your destination the old-fashioned way, above ground, going through all kinds of streets, making a bunch of turns, going through bad neighborhoods, and you could still get there. It would just take way longer. A subway, however, is basically a straight shot to your destination.. Magick is like this. Say, you want to curse someone. You could just go seek them out and beat them to a bloody pulp, and probably do more damage than a curse can, but it's a lot more difficult to accomplish to a practiced magician. Or you could cut corners, and throw a curse their way. Sorry if this makes no sense. EDIT: Also, I always thought the maps of the subways look kind of like complex Sigils. I tend to think of magic in the opposite way. I'm not really much of a magician though.
No, i completely understand where you are coming from.
A well-trained magician can work magic as if it were second nature. In many ways, magic is easier to accomplish than the mundane equivilent (a curse would be easier than punching them, for instance.), if you have practiced it enough.
Magic is both easier and more complicated. It really depends on how you look at it.
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:48 pm
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Luciferin Bandit Obscurus Luciferin Bandit This may or may not be related, but I view Magick as a kind of shortcut to something you could do in a mundane fashion. So, metaphorically speaking, Magick is like a subway. Sure, you could get to your destination the old-fashioned way, above ground, going through all kinds of streets, making a bunch of turns, going through bad neighborhoods, and you could still get there. It would just take way longer. A subway, however, is basically a straight shot to your destination.. Magick is like this. Say, you want to curse someone. You could just go seek them out and beat them to a bloody pulp, and probably do more damage than a curse can, but it's a lot more difficult to accomplish to a practiced magician. Or you could cut corners, and throw a curse their way. Sorry if this makes no sense. EDIT: Also, I always thought the maps of the subways look kind of like complex Sigils. I tend to think of magic in the opposite way. I'm not really much of a magician though. No, i completely understand where you are coming from. A well-trained magician can work magic as if it were second nature. In many ways, magic is easier to accomplish than the mundane equivilent (a curse would be easier than punching them, for instance.), if you have practiced it enough. Magic is both easier and more complicated. It really depends on how you look at it.
I think of it as mundane actions being more "direct" usually, but magical actions can take paths that you would have never thought of in a strictly mundane mindset. Obviously magic is better suited to some situations than it is to others. You're right that it depends on how you look at it.
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:45 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:54 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:58 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:52 pm
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Dizzy - atari Its not that I believe in karma or cosmic justice.Nor do I believe in reincarnation. In fact I don't believe in a lot of thing. what I do believe however is that there is no point in escalation, and that no matter what a person has done retribution will only lead to more violence. An example I have used before is this. say you and your girl/boy friend are riding the bus, and some other passenger has been making eyes at your significant other. And so you magically trip them as they are leaving the bus. 98% of the time this is as far as its going to go. Odds are this person has no idea why they tripped and likely blame some nonexistent mundane reason for the act. how ever there is a chance that ether this person or a person related to them have some form of magical knowledge. track you down using the magical signature left when you tripped them and starts a curse and hex war with you. this all could have been avoided had you simply thought about how you will most likely never see this person again and there for any misdeed they may have done you will no longer matter. This is how I see the world, and the life I have in it. Every one i meet or see/ encounter is insignificant in the overall. and so why waste any amount of energy worrying over the small or big things when you could easily find a better use for both your energy and your time.
It sounds reasonable in the context above, when the transgression is a simple look. What about something a little bigger than that? Rape. Murder. That kind of thing. Yes, we have a justice system to take care of those things but it is far, far away from perfect.
Personally, I think people have to be taught that they can't walk all over others like that. That's just me though.
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