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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:01 pm
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:03 pm
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:09 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:51 am
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:08 am
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Redem Baron von Turkeypants Soy un hombre muy honrado, que me gusta lo mejor It wasn't so much a choice as a realization. Las mujeres no me faltan, ni el dinero ni el amor Hear hear! I can no more choose to believe in god than I can choose to believe in santa. Thats a good way to put it. Especially considering I felt the same way when I realized I didn't believe in God when I no longer believed in Santa. Well, actually, I was much more upset when I realized Santa wasn't real. He's nicer.
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:16 am
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Karla Marx Redem Baron von Turkeypants Soy un hombre muy honrado, que me gusta lo mejor It wasn't so much a choice as a realization. Las mujeres no me faltan, ni el dinero ni el amor Hear hear! I can no more choose to believe in god than I can choose to believe in santa. Thats a good way to put it. Especially considering I felt the same way when I realized I didn't believe in God when I no longer believed in Santa. Well, actually, I was much more upset when I realized Santa wasn't real. He's nicer. *giggle* santa *giggle* Morgan Freeman*giggle* Belief is not a choice; it's when you get enough information and proof to make a decision. And if you don't base it on proof then you’re just a wee bit stooped.
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:05 pm
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If someone where to come up to you and claim that an invisible gaurdian spirit that looks like a dragon is behind them, protecting them...is it a choice to not believe them?
Now, I'm just going with my own line of thought here, because it sense...
When you come to the realization that dragons are not real, and why they are not real, and take the process of that realization and apply it to religion...then you understand why gods and goddess are not real, and why you can deny thier existance without having to prove it.
When you disbelieve in elves, dragons, and the Invisble Pink Unicorn, you don't have to disprove the existance of those things. The person making the original claim that those things exist carries the burden of proof.
If you are presented with an extraordinary claim, and the one making that claim cannot present extraordinary evidence, it's only logical to choose to not believe them. I think many atheists and even agnostics reach this cross-roads where the claims made by religion are not backed up by any sort of solid evidence...and so they think..."Hmmmmmm."
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:10 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:00 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:30 pm
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Sanguvixen If someone where to come up to you and claim that an invisible gaurdian spirit that looks like a dragon is behind them, protecting them...is it a choice to not believe them?
Now, I'm just going with my own line of thought here, because it sense...
When you come to the realization that dragons are not real, and why they are not real, and take the process of that realization and apply it to religion...then you understand why gods and goddess are not real, and why you can deny thier existance without having to prove it.
When you disbelieve in elves, dragons, and the Invisble Pink Unicorn, you don't have to disprove the existance of those things. The person making the original claim that those things exist carries the burden of proof.
If you are presented with an extraordinary claim, and the one making that claim cannot present extraordinary evidence, it's only logical to choose to not believe them. I think many atheists and even agnostics reach this cross-roads where the claims made by religion are not backed up by any sort of solid evidence...and so they think..."Hmmmmmm." Soy un hombre muy honrado, que me gusta lo mejor So you're telling me you're capable of choosing definitively your beliefs one way or another when there isn't evidence to support either side?
Beliefs aren't choices. Las mujeres no me faltan, ni el dinero ni el amor
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:19 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:32 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:49 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:35 pm
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