Circumcision

[ProjectOmicron88]

This may be an awkward topic, but it's something nobody talks about. In my opinion, that alone makes it worthy of discussion. If it's deemed inappropriate, please notify me and I'll take it down.

Basically, we all know circumcision to be a practice originating from religious tenets, part of a lifelong pact made with God. For those not familiar with the practice, it's an act performed on newborn baby males, in which the foreskin is cut off. The reasons are today still under debate. Some defend it by saying it prevents disease, though research has shown this to not be the case. This does not, however, change the fact that the traditional image of the organ in question, particularly in anatomy textbooks, is that of the circumcised variety.

What are your opinions on the practice of circumcision?  

[Baron von Turkeypants]

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que me gusta lo mejor

I swear I've seen this exact same topic before... o.O

Did you post this in the ED at one point? Or another guild?


EDIT: deja vu aside, I know the foreskin acts as a natural lubricant, so you have to use little, if any, artificial lubricant. I think it also does something with protection...

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[ProjectOmicron88]

No, I've actually never done a topic like this before.  

[Baron von Turkeypants]

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que me gusta lo mejor

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This is going to drive me crazy. I specifically remember that wording, or something very close. Maybe you've done a thread about another controversial topic and used the same opening?

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[Arios V]

Baron von Turkeypants

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que me gusta lo mejor

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This is going to drive me crazy. I specifically remember that wording, or something very close. Maybe you've done a thread about another controversial topic and used the same opening?

Las mujeres no me faltan,
ni el dinero ni el amor

I think someone else posted something like this in the GD a while back, cuz it looks a little familiar. Although, I don't think he was the one who posted it.  

[Baron von Turkeypants]

Soy un hombre muy honrado,
que me gusta lo mejor

No, I don't read the GD...

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[Cirosan]

Because there are no real medical advantages to circumcision, and "circumcision" is just a way of disguising what it really is - mutilating a baby - I am against it. Besides, the experience can be somewhat traumatic later on in life. Many males find themselves struggling to come to term with their own circumcision once they're older. Pound for pound, there is absolutely no reason to circumcise children.  

[SkeletonPhoenix]

Cirosan

Because there are no real medical advantages to circumcision, and "circumcision" is just a way of disguising what it really is - mutilating a baby - I am against it. Besides, the experience can be somewhat traumatic later on in life. Many males find themselves struggling to come to term with their own circumcision once they're older. Pound for pound, there is absolutely no reason to circumcise children.

People have problems with being curcumsized? News to me. Why would anyone have a problem. Also I'm neutral on this.  

[Baron von Turkeypants]

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que me gusta lo mejor

I know, seriously. Why would anyone have a problem when, say, they get their hand chopped off, or third degree burns on 80% of their body? News to me.

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[ProjectOmicron88]

SkeletonPhoenix

Cirosan

Because there are no real medical advantages to circumcision, and "circumcision" is just a way of disguising what it really is - mutilating a baby - I am against it. Besides, the experience can be somewhat traumatic later on in life. Many males find themselves struggling to come to term with their own circumcision once they're older. Pound for pound, there is absolutely no reason to circumcise children.

People have problems with being curcumsized? News to me. Why would anyone have a problem. Also I'm neutral on this.

I'm not, and I have a huge problem with it. It's barbaric, and has no medical advantages.  

[Baron von Turkeypants]

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que me gusta lo mejor

I have come up with a new procedure. Let us take off all the skin past the second joint on the index finger of the right hand of every male. What possible problems can there be?

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[JakRandom]

With all the misinformation flying around here I don't know where to start... How about here:

"It's barbaric, and has no medical advantages."

Hmmm, "Circumcision can cut the rate of HIV infection in heterosexual men by 50%" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6176209.stm I don't know about all of you, but I consider a 50% reduction of my chances of being infected with aids a 'medical advantage'. However, I am more offended by having my cultural traditions bashed by a bunch of ignorant people who haven't even bothered to do a little reading. Since when did, "Its bad!" and, "Yeah, I think so to." become an adequate substitute for discussion? Has anyone here considered the cultural significance of this practice? It seams to me that before anyone starts making statements like this, "[it] is just a way of disguising what it really is - mutilating a baby", the questions of why circumcision is practiced must first be answered.  

[Baron von Turkeypants]

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que me gusta lo mejor

I see a lot of what you're accusing us in your own words.

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[Laprasite]

JakRandom

With all the misinformation flying around here I don't know where to start... How about here:

"It's barbaric, and has no medical advantages."

Hmmm, "Circumcision can cut the rate of HIV infection in heterosexual men by 50%" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6176209.stm I don't know about all of you, but I consider a 50% reduction of my chances of being infected with aids a 'medical advantage'. However, I am more offended by having my cultural traditions bashed by a bunch of ignorant people who haven't even bothered to do a little reading. Since when did, "Its bad!" and, "Yeah, I think so to." become an adequate substitute for discussion? Has anyone here considered the cultural significance of this practice? It seams to me that before anyone starts making statements like this, "[it] is just a way of disguising what it really is - mutilating a baby", the questions of why circumcision is practiced must first be answered.

It's not an excuse to not practice safer sex. And people will unfortunately see it that way. "Hey, 50%! Maybe I could skip using a condom just this once..."

Circumcision may be cultural, but so is female circumcision. I think, since it's generally against a person's will (babies can't object, and young girls are forced into it) that it's a human rights issue.

I know of a website with a lot of information covering this topic, but it has photos so I'd have to pm anyone interested in it.

EDIT: I kind of wonder why that study was done in two different countries though. Why not do it in ONE country instead of two that have different infection rates?  

[Baron von Turkeypants]

Soy un hombre muy honrado,
que me gusta lo mejor

But wait, we must protect all cultural practices no matter what they are!

Who's to say the South American cannibals shouldn't be allowed to keep their lifestyle? It's all they know!


/sarcasm

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ni el dinero ni el amor